MotoGP 2022

[GORDON STREETER]

Bagnia kept it all together for the win in the MotoGP, however Quartararo extended his lead by finishing an amazing 2nd place considering the bike shouldn't be up there. Both Suzuki riders Rins and Mir fell off !

[Dani Filth]

considering he won last year at Mugello .. it was not expected but not a big suprise .. that last corner is very fast so hard to gain that much on the straight

[justracing]

impressive second place from Fabio considering the speed disadvantage.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by justracing

impressive second place from Fabio considering the speed disadvantage.

+ 1

[S griffin]

At the moment Quartararo and Espargaro are the ones who have been the most consistent. Fabio has done well to stay in front, but Aleix is looking like a real threat to that lead

[gomick]

Jack Miller struggled to overtake after running off track on lap 1 - reckon it is curtains for him in that team unfortunately....

[Schummy]

Hello (again)!


According to my (infamous) calculations, in MotoGP there are now three contenders and a fourth (Bagnaia) could be recoverable. Those 4 together have like 95% of chance for the title (in simulations).


In Moto2, the misfortune (after his big luck in Portimao) of Vieti has increased the contenders to six(!). Canet threw away a golden opportunity not only against Vieti but against every other candidate.


Unexpectedly, Moto3 is the less open category: only two true contenders, with another two (Masia & Foggia) that could recover that status "easily". Those 4 have a total probability of title of 97% (again in simulations).


Still 12 races to go but points gaps are not so easy to recover as our intuition could think. Calculations help us to better appreciate the scoring possibilities.


A curiosity: in terms of regularity/consistency, Marc Marquez is the 3rd better in MotoGP. His "typical" (median) position is 6th, just a bit better than Rins and Mir and only worse than Quarteraro (3rd) and A.Espargaro (3rd). More than anything it is a statistical hiccup, as he could lose like 5 positions after the next race... if he ran it.


(These days I watch practice, qualifying and races throughout Saturday to Tuesday or Wednesday, so I cannot enter here for obvious spoiler reasons. I also follow WSBK&sisters series and "even" F1.)

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Schummy

Hello (again)!






A curiosity: in terms of regularity/consistency, Marc Marquez is the 3rd better in MotoGP. His "typical" (median) position is 6th, just a bit better than Rins and Mir and only worse than Quarteraro (3rd) and A.Espargaro (3rd). More than anything it is a statistical hiccup, as he could lose like 5 positions after the next race... if he ran it.

I don't think that Marquez can now be thought as a contender .

[Gerard C]

Unfortunately, as Gordon says MMwont be a contender for this year. I wonder if Fabio is right to stay with Yamaha. Unless they have revealed many good things they have now in their hands to improve the engine this year and in the future. In the past they already had a pattern of promises not always fulfilled.

[gomick]

Fabio just signed with Yamaha for another 2 years....

[S griffin]

Fabio is really getting the most out of that Yamaha, like the aforementioned Marquez has done with his Honda or how Stoner used to get the maximum out of his Ducati. It shows what a top talent Fabio is and we should be seeing more success from him in times to come

[Schummy]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I don't think that Marquez can now be thought as a contender .

"Contender" is a word that I am not going to use with Marc . However, he has been surprisingly consistent, as data shows, given his and his bike's condition. He is between 3rd and 5th more consistent (median-wise); not for much more time, sadly.



Seeing the scores table, IMO the contenders are;
Quartararo (best rider, mediocre bike)
Aleix (good rider, pretty good bike, solid points so far)
Bastia (big talent, pretty good bike, (still) irregular)

and maybe Bagnaia (a Dovi-esque rider, perhaps a bit faster, probably less reliable, best bike, a great team but with an amazing skill to harm themselves)

[Gerard C]

Yes I saw that too but him and his team manager must have good technical reasons to stay. May be one is to have a fully commited team.

[S griffin]

I don’t know where else he can go, besides he probably has good faith in his team to turn it around, even if it won’t be easy

[Dani Filth]

moaning = money, more
webster definition for motogp riders

he does lack bulletproof options and the bike is NOT THAT BAD is it .. finishing second on Mugello

[Dani Filth]

moaning = money, more
webster definition for motogp riders

he does lack bulletproof options and the bike is NOT THAT BAD is it .. finishing second on Mugello

[Gerard C]

Of course it's not that bad and now we know that Luca Marmorini and his team will build improved engines. When will those be avalaible is a good question imo.

[GORDON STREETER]

WTF was Aleix Espargaro thinking !!!! I won't spoil it for people but !!!!!

[Gerard C]

WTF is Aleix Espargaro smoking? Can you name the cigarettes?

Good job Fabio, good surprise Zarco very good race Martin.

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

WTF is Aleix Espargaro smoking? Can you name the cigarettes?

He obviously can't count or read his pit signals, although I do feel sorry for him as he was gutted !

[GORDON STREETER]

Angry Rins blasts Stewards as “not at MotoGP level” after Barcelona crash after
the Suzuki rider has potentially been left with a broken wrist after LCR Honda’s Nakagami crashed at Turn 1 on the opening lap and skittled both Ducati’s Francesco Bagnaia and Rins.

Rins was launched into the air and landed heavily, while Nakagami was taken to hospital for checks after hitting Bagnaia’s rear wheel with his face.

This is the second-successive collision between Rins and Nakagami, who was branded as “one of the most dangerous riders” by the Suzuki man after a clash at Mugello one week ago.

[S griffin]

There's been quite a bit of criticism towards the stewards of late. Incidents will happen, especially on the first lap, but some need to reign in their enthusiasm

Really there was no need for Nakahami to be that aggressive. I do hope he's alright after that though. Wouldn't wish that on anyone. But it's becoming too much of a habit with him. He's a decent rider, but he needs to respect other riders more

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by S griffin

There's been quite a bit of criticism towards the stewards of late. Incidents will happen, especially on the first lap, but some need to reign in their enthusiasm

There is a saying in motor racing that "you can't win it on the first lap" "but you can lose it"

[justracing]

Quartararo imperious, total domination. Aleix no cigar, team or rider mistake? Ducati and Suzuki in the doldrums and Nakasan in disgrace.

[Gerard C]

Nakasan and Fast Freddie it seems…