[BTCC] BTCC News & Rumours 2025

[SV8Predator]

Originally Posted by ahobson98

A season in F4 is ballpark 300-350k+ depending on the team

And the rest! Your figures were "about" correct 4 or 5 years ago.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by ahobson98

A season in F4 is ballpark 300-350k+ depending on the team

Not if you want to win it isn't.

[SV8Predator]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

think nearly everyone here could have come up with something better and cheaper

You're correct! I'm sure all the experts on here, with all their motorsport, engineering and automotive industry experience (like your good self), would definitely come up with something more suitable.

[ChrisA]

Didn't we have a junior touring car series many years ago. They were basically space frame cars which resembled two door mondeos. I think the series lasted about 3 seasons. Repairs were expensive as were the cars initially. Some of the young drivers did go on to bigger things, but for the life of me, I can't remember who.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by SV8Predator

You're correct! I'm sure all the experts on here, with all their motorsport, engineering and automotive industry experience (like your good self), would definitely come up with something more suitable.

you see what overpaid hack managers can do, see Boeing

or the British Leyland dudes who managed to destroy the worlds fifth largest car maker


heck anyone here could tell that body shell is ugly and send the designers back to the drawing board and if they continue to fail hire others , maybe italian ones

one thing what this managers lack is something called common sense

[Petoli]

Originally Posted by ChrisA

Didn't we have a junior touring car series many years ago. They were basically space frame cars which resembled two door mondeos. I think the series lasted about 3 seasons. Repairs were expensive as were the cars initially. Some of the young drivers did go on to bigger things, but for the life of me, I can't remember who.

You thinking of T-Cars

Run from 1999 to 2007

They were basically what you describe they were though powered by a Vauxhall engine and had what looked like the front of a 1st gen Audi A4 with the rear of a mid 90s Honda Civic Saloon

Tom Chilton, Max Chilton, Jolyn Palmer all raced at some point

[SV8Predator]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

one thing what this managers lack is something called common sense

No "managers" involved in the new TOCA Junior car.

Not really sure what your point is?

With your scathing comments, I presume you were there this evening at Daventry, and actually saw the car?

[ChrisA]

Originally Posted by Petoli

You thinking of T-Cars

Run from 1999 to 2007

They were basically what you describe they were though powered by a Vauxhall engine and had what looked like the front of a 1st gen Audi A4 with the rear of a mid 90s Honda Civic Saloon

Tom Chilton, Max Chilton, Jolyn Palmer all raced at some point

Thanks for that. I couldn't remember what they were called. Saw them a few times at Donington and Mallory. Driving standards were terrible, rather like the junior Ginetta series, but they were kids after all.

[Alfaholic]

Originally Posted by Alfaholic

With a 309 back end
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Not sure what went wrong there - let's try again

[BtccLee]

This page may have been on the website for a while, and I hadn't observed it, but found it interesting there is now a 'Sustainability' section on the official website: https://btcc.net/sustainability/

Supposedly being updated in the coming weeks, I wonder if this will connect with 2026/27 regulations and maybe a move toward more sustainable fuel/carbon neutrality.

[PeterY]

Originally Posted by Pit Lane Lurker

£94k for a car.
£35k entry.

Oh dear.

Ginetta juniors was criticised for being too expensive. what they have done it create a series that will cost far more, cars that can only be used in one place and then don't look particularly special either. seems a bit out of touch.

I can't see it taking off in the current climate but happy to be proved wrong if the racing is as entertaining as Ginetta juniors was

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by SV8Predator

No "managers" involved in the new TOCA Junior car.

Not really sure what your point is?

so who is responsable for this overpriced turd ??

[Adamcas87]

Great concept regards to it been a junior champ

The car looks dreadful and outdated

Would like to of seen the old production car cup reignited
Or something along those lines…

[MarcusH26]

https://www.excelr8motorsport.com/excelr8-open-to-collaboration-as-btcc-seeks-expansion/

Excler8 are open to supplying cars or technical support to any new teams looking to join the series.

[Sodemo]

Looks like the "Homer" car.

[billy bleach]

Still its good the 8-12 age group were involved - I wonder if the winning designer gets a Blue Peter badge? How does a plain sheet opportunity end up like that?!

[Mike Harte]

Cost is obviously an issue; however, as to the aesthetics of the car, does it really matter? Surely the most important factor is if the car will provide good racing for the youngsters and that parts/body panels are readily available and the cars are quick and simple to repair.

[st-dave]

https://btcc.net/covers-officially-c...-launch-event/

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

This page may have been on the website for a while, and I hadn't observed it, but found it interesting there is now a 'Sustainability' section on the official website: https://btcc.net/sustainability/

Supposedly being updated in the coming weeks, I wonder if this will connect with 2026/27 regulations and maybe a move toward more sustainable fuel/carbon neutrality.

It's been for a while there but also caught my attention. To stay relevant, BTCC definitely needs to join the sustainability bandwagon and implementing hybrid two years ago is certainly part of that. Wonder what more is coming but certainly it is, perhaps linked to new generation of cars.

[pimmy]

It's all very well and good having a new series on the bill but if it's going to have the same sort of coverage that the other supports get then there isn't much point. Hopefully, with it being a TOCA-branded championship, Gow will force ITV into actually giving a crap about it. Don't want it to be like Minis where only 2 of the last 5 races have been broadcast.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by MarcusH26

https://www.excelr8motorsport.com/excelr8-open-to-collaboration-as-btcc-seeks-expansion/

Excler8 are open to supplying cars or technical support to any new teams looking to join the series.

So are nearly every team on the grid who build their own cars. Last year there was a story about Alliance (Napa) saying pretty much exactly the same thing.

Being open to supplying customer cars, and having a customer wanting cars, are two very different things

[Greem]

Originally Posted by redshoes

So are nearly every team on the grid who build their own cars. Last year there was a story about Alliance (Napa) saying pretty much exactly the same thing.

Being open to supplying customer cars, and having a customer wanting cars, are two very different things

Summer break, no racing, gotta keep those eyeballs feasting on the lovely company and sponsor branding!

[SSmith]

Originally Posted by pimmy

It's all very well and good having a new series on the bill but if it's going to have the same sort of coverage that the other supports get then there isn't much point. Hopefully, with it being a TOCA-branded championship, Gow will force ITV into actually giving a crap about it. Don't want it to be like Minis where only 2 of the last 5 races have been broadcast.

I would imagine TOCA Juniors will get 2 televised races on Sundays. If its first ever race is on the Saturday of Donington Park in 2025, that individual race may get tacked onto the ITV YouTube stream for BTCC Rd1 Qualifying.

It is frustrating with the MINIs that we have probably only seen 6 live races plus maybe a further 2 in highlight form their 16 races thus far this year. Its not though a case of Gow "forc[ing] ITV into actually giving a crap about it" - blame the contracts and sponsorship. Porsche presumably put some significant money into TOCA and thus get some very nice race scheduling.

[AJD]

Just been having a thought. How many Ginetta junior drivers go on to forge a career in the BTCC? I can't remember many but that might just be me.

If this new junior series is actually been billed as a feeder series to the BTCC then maybe a few of the bigger teams may be interested in entering with some up and coming talent.

Otherwise we might as well just have a junior Mini championship that would then lead into the other Mini championships which now seem to be the closest thing to a BTCC feeder that we have after the Clio cup left.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by AJD

Just been having a thought. How many Ginetta junior drivers go on to forge a career in the BTCC? I can't remember many but that might just be me.

If this new junior series is actually been billed as a feeder series to the BTCC then maybe a few of the bigger teams may be interested in entering with some up and coming talent.

Tom Ingram and Jake Hill are the most high profile examples. There's been a few more who have driven both, many just doing the occasional round. There are many more example of ex Ginetta Jr drivers who have since gone on to a GT/Sportscar career

It's not going to be a direct feeder into BTCC. You are going to need to be an exceptional talent and/or an exception budget to jump from Jrs straight into BTCC.