ALMS Rnd 1: 12 Hours of Sebring 14-17 Mar 2007 - Page 6

The Badger · 13 Mar 2007, 22:13 (Ref:1865963)

One hell of a kink in the splitter of the Highcroft and AGR cars !!!

HORNDAWG · 13 Mar 2007, 22:30 (Ref:1865978)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

One hell of a kink in the splitter of the Highcroft and AGR cars !!!

Definitely has a scalloped leading edge on it!

L.P.

The359 · 13 Mar 2007, 23:04 (Ref:1866011)

The Konrad car is definately their 996:

http://www.racingfanatics.com/JI9S8919.jpg

gwyllion · 13 Mar 2007, 23:05 (Ref:1866014)

There are some more pictures of today on http://www.americanlemans.com/Galler...11&GalleryID=7.

cmk · 13 Mar 2007, 23:32 (Ref:1866035)

I'm beginning to suspect that Tafel are running stealth Porsches - no pics of their livery yet that I've seen. Ditto Farnbacher and TransSport. I'm quite fond of the Corsa livery and the Dyson and Lizard Porsches, but the RLR Porsche could not be more of a snooze if it tried. Could you not have done something, anything, besides putting some decals on the plain white body?

I'm wondering whether there was/is a Konrad 997. It could have to do with the issue of the Luciano De Silva character that was floated here a while back. However, if those accusations were true, how did said individual run in Bahrain and Dubai with Konrad?

The359 · 13 Mar 2007, 23:45 (Ref:1866046)

I haven't seen Autoracing Club Bratislava's Porsche yet either.

paul-collins · 13 Mar 2007, 23:58 (Ref:1866051)

Spotter's guide added to the first post, also here:

http://www.rennsport-beraten.com/spo...ng_2007_v1.pdf

The359 · 14 Mar 2007, 00:04 (Ref:1866053)

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Originally Posted by paul-collins

Spotter's guide added to the first post, also here:

http://www.rennsport-beraten.com/spo...ng_2007_v1.pdf

I notice the guide lists Konrad as running on Dunlops, yet the picture I posted above had Yokohama on the car.

The Badger · 14 Mar 2007, 00:24 (Ref:1866059)

Thats not the correct Konrad 996 . I think its a pic of how the car ran in that race in the desert a few weeks ago ..... just take a look at the rear wing . It is illegal to ALMS rules .

HORNDAWG · 14 Mar 2007, 00:25 (Ref:1866060)

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Originally Posted by cmk

I'm beginning to suspect that Tafel are running stealth Porsches - no pics of their livery yet that I've seen. Ditto Farnbacher and TransSport. I'm quite fond of the Corsa livery and the Dyson and Lizard Porsches, but the RLR Porsche could not be more of a snooze if it tried. Could you not have done something, anything, besides putting some decals on the plain white body?

I'm wondering whether there was/is a Konrad 997. It could have to do with the issue of the Luciano De Silva character that was floated here a while back. However, if those accusations were true, how did said individual run in Bahrain and Dubai with Konrad?

Heres what I found on Tafel.

From Sebring testing! http://www.tafelracing.com/content/view/423/1/

L.P.

The359 · 14 Mar 2007, 00:29 (Ref:1866063)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Thats not the correct Konrad 996 . I think its a pic of how the car ran in that race in the desert a few weeks ago ..... just take a look at the rear wing . It is illegal to ALMS rules .

On the Spotter's Guide the 996 is indeed the Bahrain car, but this car:
http://www.racingfanatics.com/JI9S8919.jpg
is definately the Sebring 996, since it has IMSA and ALMS stickers on the door, and a Yokohama sticker on the front end.

HORNDAWG · 14 Mar 2007, 00:30 (Ref:1866064)

Spotters guide looks right on to me!

L.P.

cmk · 14 Mar 2007, 01:35 (Ref:1866085)

Man, I have to say I really hope there are some sponsor decals to be added to the GT2 field, or it's rather sad. Almost nobody seems to have much money on their car at all...save for PTG/Corsa/RLR. Flying Lizard doesn't have Portalplayer anymore, there's nothing on the Tafel cars, only a lone MMPIE logo on the Petersen Ferrari, just Forza 2 on the Risi car...

It's nice that there's still money to run the cars, but here's an amazing field in class that should produce fabulous racing, and no corporations seem to want to get on board, and that's disheartening.

chewymonster · 14 Mar 2007, 02:01 (Ref:1866093)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Man, I have to say I really hope there are some sponsor decals to be added to the GT2 field, or it's rather sad. Almost nobody seems to have much money on their car at all...save for PTG/Corsa/RLR. Flying Lizard doesn't have Portalplayer anymore, there's nothing on the Tafel cars, only a lone MMPIE logo on the Petersen Ferrari, just Forza 2 on the Risi car...

It's nice that there's still money to run the cars, but here's an amazing field in class that should produce fabulous racing, and no corporations seem to want to get on board, and that's disheartening.

Nascar.

FLGTFAN · 14 Mar 2007, 02:57 (Ref:1866108)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Man, I have to say I really hope there are some sponsor decals to be added to the GT2 field, or it's rather sad. Almost nobody seems to have much money on their car at all...save for PTG/Corsa/RLR. Flying Lizard doesn't have Portalplayer anymore, there's nothing on the Tafel cars, only a lone MMPIE logo on the Petersen Ferrari, just Forza 2 on the Risi car...

It's nice that there's still money to run the cars, but here's an amazing field in class that should produce fabulous racing, and no corporations seem to want to get on board, and that's disheartening.

Good points, although it is only Tuesday. There could be some more sponsorship to "appear" (i.e. decals). If sponsorship on the flanks was so important, you would not see as many brand new race cars on the grid.

HORNDAWG · 14 Mar 2007, 03:58 (Ref:1866126)

Team Trans Sport.
http://gallery.johnthawley.com/galle...2_itemId=82195

Farnbacher Loles
http://gallery.johnthawley.com/galle...2_itemId=82183

All I found so far!

L.P.

Spyderman · 14 Mar 2007, 08:33 (Ref:1866222)

I know its early day's, yet the obvious speed differential between the Audi's and the top P2's serves to demonstarte that ACO's further restriction of the P2's was/is completely unfounded!
Can you imagine what the time differences would be if the P2's were running around with ACO's 2007 spec restrictors?

class4v · 14 Mar 2007, 09:01 (Ref:1866263)

Well, if the 2007 spec restrictors were in place in the ALMS, you would maybe have Porsche move faster to P1 and have a P2 class with real P2 teams and not hidden factory teams...

gwyllion · 14 Mar 2007, 09:32 (Ref:1866291)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

I know its early day's, yet the obvious speed differential between the Audi's and the top P2's serves to demonstarte that ACO's further restriction of the P2's was/is completely unfounded!
Can you imagine what the time differences would be if the P2's were running around with ACO's 2007 spec restrictors?

ACO wants LMP2 to be at least 1.5% slower than LMP1.

The best LMP2 lap is 1:46.703, while the Audi R10 did it in 1:45.106. That is exactly 1.52%.

On shorter circuits however this might become a problem. That is why ACO proposed the 5% restrictor reduction.

gwyllion · 14 Mar 2007, 10:17 (Ref:1866327)

More pictures on http://gallery.johnthawley.com/galle...2020&g2_page=8

gwyllion · 14 Mar 2007, 10:24 (Ref:1866333)

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Originally Posted by cmk

I'm beginning to suspect that Tafel are running stealth Porsches - no pics of their livery yet that I've seen. Ditto Farnbacher and TransSport.

Tafel #73: http://gallery.johnthawley.com/galle...2_itemId=82167
Farnbacher Loles: http://gallery.johnthawley.com/galle...2_itemId=82183

Spyderman · 14 Mar 2007, 12:50 (Ref:1866415)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

ACO wants LMP2 to be at least 1.5% slower than LMP1.

The best LMP2 lap is 1:46.703, while the Audi R10 did it in 1:45.106. That is exactly 1.52%.

On shorter circuits however this might become a problem. That is why ACO proposed the 5% restrictor reduction.

Yes it might on shorter circuits (assuming that the Audi's are flat out!)

If I remember correctly, the best times were are not the basis for the 1,5%, but rather the average over say 30 laps.

Spyderman · 14 Mar 2007, 12:53 (Ref:1866416)

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Originally Posted by class4v

Well, if the 2007 spec restrictors were in place in the ALMS, you would maybe have Porsche move faster to P1 and have a P2 class with real P2 teams and not hidden factory teams...

Not according to Hartmut Kristen. Porsche will not build a P1 car until the pro- Diesel rules are altered.

mwrmt · 14 Mar 2007, 15:25 (Ref:1866497)

Thanks for all the updates 10-10ths.

It should be a great race regardless and too bad only one of my buddies can make it for the party.

Enjoy it.

GO AUDI GO!

chewymonster · 14 Mar 2007, 15:51 (Ref:1866511)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

ACO wants LMP2 to be at least 1.5% slower than LMP1.

The best LMP2 lap is 1:46.703, while the Audi R10 did it in 1:45.106. That is exactly 1.52%.

On shorter circuits however this might become a problem. That is why ACO proposed the 5% restrictor reduction.

Exactly. But we do see that the factory P2s are much quicker than any privateer P1. Of course, you can say that it is too early to make judments but I am sure the trend will continue. This, IMO is a problem.

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