Future Grands Prix? - Page 6

Beetle · 13 Nov 2012, 18:33 (Ref:3165963)

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Originally Posted by Bononi

Rio is always blah-blah-blah... They said they would make Jacarepagua better than ever, and they destroy it completely. Now they promise, and promises are things they do so well, a new track built from scratch. Ask the racing community there and you'll know the hard truth. It's only excuses for spending more money with over-billed constructions and then they leave them with no support to keep them operational. That's what happened to Jacarepagua after the Pan-American olympics, and now they come with "new" projects... BS.

Well, the 2016 Olympics wouldn't classify as B.S. now, would it? Or the 2014 World Cup?

**Bononi** · 13 Nov 2012, 19:54 (Ref:3165986)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

Well, the 2016 Olympics wouldn't classify as B.S. now, would it? Or the 2014 World Cup?

Gold BS, when the expenditure of reforming/building all those structures has exceeded US$ 500 million of what was expected.

But there you are, here's a country with virtually unlimited resources and a people who loves to party...

NaBUru38 · 16 Nov 2012, 15:12 (Ref:3167100)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bononi

Rio is always blah-blah-blah... They said they would make Jacarepagua better than ever, and they destroy it completely. Now they promise, and promises are things they do so well, a new track built from scratch. Ask the racing community there and you'll know the hard truth.

I also don't trust politicians from Rio. The only way is that an promoter finds sponsors and designs a street circuit, so polititcans appears on the photo.

wolfhound · 16 Nov 2012, 18:17 (Ref:3167168)

Tavo Hellmund is now working on a GP for Mexico probably at Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez in Mexico city after an upgrade. He is hoping it will be ready for 2014.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/186162/...exican_gp.html

There is certainly potential for a successful Mexican with Perez a potential GP winner at McLaren.

**chunterer** · 16 Nov 2012, 23:19 (Ref:3167257)

That still has to be the best venue for a GP?

Ok, you would have to get rid of that stupid stadium infield bit that cut out half of the Classic Peraltalda corner and increase the overall length by a mile, but it has history...

NaBUru38 · 17 Nov 2012, 02:12 (Ref:3167312)

It's the best place because it's closest to DF.

Purist · 17 Nov 2012, 03:06 (Ref:3167321)

While you take some things with a grain of salt, Bernie did say in an interview, within the last week, that Hermanos Rogriguez would "definitely not" host F1.

Marbot · 18 Nov 2012, 02:42 (Ref:3167695)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Anyway Interlagos is just brilliant...

Indeed. But it was a rather 'politically incorrect' swipe at the venue that Martin Whitmarsh took at it in the Friday press conference, in reply to a question regarding BE's assertion that all F1 circuits should now be of a standard similar to that of COTA, etc. In other words: How long can Interlagos get away with being a bit of a dump.

**Bononi** · 18 Nov 2012, 11:53 (Ref:3167860)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Indeed. But it was a rather 'politically incorrect' swipe at the venue that Martin Whitmarsh took at it in the Friday press conference, in reply to a question regarding BE's assertion that all F1 circuits should now be of a standard similar to that of COTA, etc. In other words: How long can Interlagos get away with being a bit of a dump.

Simply because BE let it get away with it.

wolfhound · 18 Nov 2012, 15:37 (Ref:3167935)

Is this for real?

http://www.pitpass.com/47947-Ecclest...ian-Grand-Prix

A second Indian GP when the first one has only 2/3 attendance?

**Bononi** · 18 Nov 2012, 16:27 (Ref:3167965)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

Is this for real?

http://www.pitpass.com/47947-Ecclest...ian-Grand-Prix

A second Indian GP when the first one has only 2/3 attendance?

Ouch...

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 18 Nov 2012, 23:39 (Ref:3168175)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

Is this for real?

http://www.pitpass.com/47947-Ecclest...ian-Grand-Prix

A second Indian GP when the first one has only 2/3 attendance?

Pitpass reporting one of their own staff's report for an Indian newspaper, of speculation based on a supposed quote from BE.

wolfhound · 20 Nov 2012, 13:29 (Ref:3169049)

More on a Mexican GP from Joe Saward who says that a deal has been done probably for 2014 at Mexico city with a revamp of the old track.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/...ican-standoff/

**chunterer** · 20 Nov 2012, 18:53 (Ref:3169132)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

More on a Mexican GP from Joe Saward who says that a deal has been done probably for 2014 at Mexico city with a revamp of the old track.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/...ican-standoff/

The interesting part to me is that the circuit may only be a stop gap whilst the Cancun (or another) venue is built.....

Again shame about that bloody stadium - if it wasn't for that, the old layout with a revamped pit complex (plus a suitable half mile extension or so somewhere within the grounds) would've been fine.

Purist · 21 Nov 2012, 15:46 (Ref:3169462)

Just reinstate the original layout, and you've just about got that half a mile right there! I know, the chances of getting them to accept Espiral, the original Horquilla hairpin, not to mention Peralta(da), I can't imagine being all that good.

On the bright side, with the space constraints there, I don't think they can mess it up too much. They won't have to worry as much about "excessive speed" there either, with the track being at over 7,000ft (thinner air=less downforce and less power).

wolfhound · 21 Nov 2012, 17:35 (Ref:3169493)

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Originally Posted by Purist

Just reinstate the original layout, and you've just about got that half a mile right there! I know, the chances of getting them to accept Espiral, the original Horquilla hairpin, not to mention Peralta(da), I can't imagine being all that good.

On the bright side, with the space constraints there, I don't think they can mess it up too much. They won't have to worry as much about "excessive speed" there either, with the track being at over 7,000ft (thinner air=less downforce and less power).

You might get an idea why the original Peralta cannot be used.

hope the link works.

https://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&sour...,0.038409&z=15

Marbot · 21 Nov 2012, 17:40 (Ref:3169498)

Oh yeah! There seems to be some stuff in the way.

**Bononi** · 21 Nov 2012, 18:33 (Ref:3169514)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

You might get an idea why the original Peralta cannot be used.

hope the link works.

https://maps.google.ie/maps?f=q&sour...,0.038409&z=15

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Oh yeah! There seems to be some stuff in the way.

Some ? Everything !

**chunterer** · 21 Nov 2012, 19:26 (Ref:3169540)

The circuit could be used but it isn't long enough or dare I say it safe enough in current guise. I can't see how they can carry out the sort of amendments that would be required within those boundaries!!

wolfhound · 5 Dec 2012, 23:17 (Ref:3175549)

At interesting idea has emerged from Joe Saward about a GP in Austria next year due to logistics the tracks owner also owning the top team in F1. It would just be a one off while others get their plans and $$$$$ sorted.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2012/...it-be-austria/

The thought also crossed my mind with a certain amount of risk attached to a German GP at the moment an Austrian GP might be enough to satisfy the teams etc.

Marbot · 5 Dec 2012, 23:36 (Ref:3175553)

Does anyone get the feeling that CVC/Bernie are actually required to now have 20 races on the calendar in order to meet certain conditions with regard to payments to the teams?

Bernie does seem to be trying to nail down that 20th race more than he would normally.

wolfhound · 5 Dec 2012, 23:44 (Ref:3175558)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Does anyone get the feeling that CVC/Bernie are actually required to now have 20 races on the calendar in order to meet certain conditions with regard to payments to the teams?

Bernie does seem to be trying to nail down that 20th race more than he would normally.

I would agree with you about that but I would suspect it is pressure coming from CVC to maximise returns. It may also be something to do with the prise fund that the teams get.

If we knew what was in the latest concorde agreement it could give clues as to why that pressure for 20 races is there.
I don't think there is any real prssure from the teams for more races because more races increase their costs and put more pressure on their personel.

chillibowl · 6 Dec 2012, 15:45 (Ref:3175807)

im sure there is a minimum number of races required before penalties and additional payments to the teams kick in. not sure its 20 in total because that would be high but isnt there a requirement (maybe imposed by the teams) to have a minimum of European events?

chillibowl · 6 Dec 2012, 16:00 (Ref:3175817)

forgot to add, that with no Valencia and New jersey not ready thats only 19 confirmed races. now that Germany appears to be iffy it could be only 18 races.

formerf1champ · 7 Dec 2012, 23:29 (Ref:3176355)

Since the post race interview are now conducted on the podium, typically by a motorsport personality from that country. My qualification for future gp would be, if you can't provide a legitimate, respectable motorsport name to do these interviews, you shouldn't get a gp.

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