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I haven't read the entire thread, as to be honest I find the discussion to fit my opinion about the grid girls:
When thinking about it, I cannot remember noticing the grid girls at Le Mans or when watching Motorsport in TV. So, I really don't care about the grid girls being replaced, or missing entirely. I'm there to watch the cars not the girls. So I personally find this discussion "pointless" as we, as "hardcore" fans really won't miss them at all. |
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With all respect to Shea she didn't do a very good job showing how the first part of that story connected to the second. Maybe she has a good point but I didn't get it there. It sounded like it would be the same issue about not expecting women to be looking for certain jobs whether or not others exist or not.
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I think grid girls are kind of spice. Spice is needed for the main dish.
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If this was a FIA initiative you'd see it happening all across their series. The fact that the WEC is at the forefront of this should tell you that the series organizers are behind it and not the FIA.
I can only applaud the decision. The WEC has a fantastic female role model in Leena Gade who shows that female racing careers can be more than holding a board in a short dress for the enjoyment of men. Last but not least, the decision makes plenty of sense marketing wise. The WEC wants to be seen as the progressive and modern series who does things differently and in a way that is relevant to today's society. This decision perfectly fits the bill. |
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I'm in the motorsport zone when I'm watching motorsport. When I'm in the motorsport zone women don't feature on my radar.
I see alot of high principled commentary across the net about how backward it all is from people who think they see this issue through some kind of feminist lense. Frankly, I see the gradual fall from grace of the "grid girl" as symtomatic of the information age in that we are bombarded with images of dolled up women and therefore the grid girl has become jaded and ordinary for people. |
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I dont see the need to get rid of them alltogether.
NASCAR does it right with 'Miss Sprint Cup'. Basically they are NASCAR's gird girls but the difference is they are modestly dressed. No mega cleavage or revealing mini skirts. Theres nothing wrong with having beautiful women being on the grid. A woman's beauty and charm is one of her assets, in the same way a man's physical strength is one of his. This doesnt surprise me though, some people nowadays are offended by any media that portrays a woman cooking or cleaning. |
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Why, because you think these developments are entertaining? Personally, I can't see the funny side of a vast totalitairian group infiltrating in, what once was, our open and enlightend societies. To then see armies of politically correct governments and governing bodies(ACO) bow down in dhimmitude to even meat them in their backward and women degrading ways, is just downright shocking.
We all know that these grid girls have a right old laugh when performing their duties at Le Mans or any race(except for chillingly freezing wet days at some English circuits ) and get some very nice pay for it as well. Don't forget it's quite the thing to boast about among young ladies to be able to say you were on the grid of the famous Le Mans 24 hours. So, at least 24 women are not gonna have a handsome wad of cash thanks to the hypocritical ways of yet another badge of board derictives who think they can fool us into thinking that enjoying our eyes on pretty ladies is a very, very bad thing to do. |
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It's my Easter holiday and today I hoped to sleep in a little but unfortunately was wide awake t my usual time so got up and decided to see what was happening in the motorsport world.
Thanks to ten pages of this I will now head off back to bed for a snooze. The benefits of Ten Tenths just keep showing in different ways! |
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Would it be appropriate to have girls revealing outfits handing out flyers at the supermarket for example? People seem to be confusing WEC's decision to not have grid girls at their 'family friendly' events with a worldwide ban on smut. Come on chaps, it's not as if we are short of ways to look at T & A. |
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Has there been any comments from the girls, as to how they feel about loss of income, lack of exposure etc. Sorry, poor choice of words.
I mean, they all paid top dollar to have those boob jobs done, to earn money flaunting their assets. Now the mean old WEC has taken their line of income away. They could probably attempt some sort of legal action like restraint of trade. |
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lisa crampton made a solid point that none of you are thinking about:
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so reducing the 'token fluff' quota of women is great from that point of view. neither gender should be used as token fluff. you only need to check out the side panel of the daily mail website to see an example of the self-image hate that both women and men get from the media. taking a step away from that is great. ps. i hope i don't fall under the radical feminist banner. i'm just trying to get taken seriously as an employee. i want little girls to see the great women running the sport in team and organiser shirts and not wonder why they're not wearing high heels and carrying a flag. |
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Interesting how feminists and Muslims have been "blamed" for this (as well as the FIA...and the ACO).
That only proves to me how confused some people are about this. Change the P2 regulations and people are unhappy, take away the grass at Le Mans and people complain, but if you really want to rile some people, take away a bit of leg and cleavage from the grid. I've read a few posts which appear to suggest that this is the feminist's fault for wanting us to live in a world where women are covered up. That's an incredibly outdated view of feminism - if it was ever accurate at all. This isn't to do with what women wear, but it is to do with their roles and why they're wearing what they wear. Google "Free the Nipple". It might be different if these girls did something which required talent. No - it most definitely would be different. I have zero interest in cheerleaders either and I find that concept strange as well, but at least what they do requires an incredible amount of skill and hard work. They're dancers, and they're not being objectified in the same way as a glorified flag pole. |
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Actually I blame it on the "professionally offended".
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Being a father of two beautiful (now grown) daughters, I am quite sure that given the choices of flags and high heels vs. clipboards and headphones when they were little girls, they would have chose flags and heels.
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Indeed! My daughter would have too. Sadly they will not rest until their right to choose is no longer. We will all get browbeaten into group think.
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fascinating. i (and my best friends) grew up without being given the pink girly dialogue and spent my summer holidays holding toy car races. i liked the pioneer branded f40 the best so i made it win all the time. think i have a future in wec management?
one bestie is the daughter of a rally mechanic, and she grew up on motocross bikes. the other wanted to be in motorsport engineering for as long as she can remember. my best friend 10 years ago was also the daughter of a mechanic and also grew up around cars and racing. when you don't expose little girls to traditionally little girl things, they don't go out of their way to find it. |
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..and that is Fantastic!.....but it is their choice!
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