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Old 13 Jun 2010, 18:05 (Ref:2711285)   #126
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Made me chuckle.

Not sure how Hamilton's unsafe release got overlooked. Worst weekend ever by TGF, if a rookie had a race like that, people would be furious.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 18:07 (Ref:2711287)   #127
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Not sure how Hamilton's unsafe release got overlooked. Worst weekend ever by TGF, if a rookie had a race like that, people would be furious.
The release seemed safe to me. It was the box-exit that caused the issue, way too much wheelspin.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 18:13 (Ref:2711295)   #128
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I can't wait for Nick Heidfeld to be given the seat he deserved from the off. I doubt he'd have had a mess of a race like that.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 18:20 (Ref:2711304)   #129
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Anyone know why the RBRs slowed so much. I heard on ESPN that Vettel was again having car problems
Post-race interview Vettel said they were "managing gearbox issues".....though he didn't seem to know that in the race....

Webber was closing on him, but there may have been a reluctance to have a fight to the death over 4th place, after Turkey.....


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Old 13 Jun 2010, 18:28 (Ref:2711316)   #130
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I tell you what, just watching the start again Jenson did well to hold onto the car! Massa and Liuzzi really slammed into him.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 18:33 (Ref:2711323)   #131
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Post-race interview Vettel said they were "managing gearbox issues".....though he didn't seem to know that in the race....

Webber was closing on him, but there may have been a reluctance to have a fight to the death over 4th place, after Turkey.....

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Any reason why Webber didnt take the position if Vettels car was wounded?
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 19:17 (Ref:2711362)   #132
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Vettel: What is the fastest lap of the race
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Made me chuckle.

Not sure how Hamilton's unsafe release got overlooked. Worst weekend ever by TGF, if a rookie had a race like that, people would be furious.
I thought Hamilton and Alonso did really well. They gave each other enough room so no problem. In fact all the leading drivers fought fair and square it seemed to me. Plenty of clean overtaking and hard battling, really entertaining stuff. Puts Schumi's performance in sharp relief.
I wondered if Bernie noticed how good a race on a proper track with a packed crowd can be? Montreal should be one of the first names on the list in my opinion.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 19:18 (Ref:2711364)   #133
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just been told that there has been a 20 sec pen for Massa for speeding in the pit lane
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 19:21 (Ref:2711366)   #134
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just been told that there has been a 20 sec pen for Massa for speeding in the pit lane
It's just a shame that the stewards can't issue a "mandatory retirement" penalty for Schumacher.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 19:23 (Ref:2711374)   #135
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I wondered if Bernie noticed how good a race on a proper track with a packed crowd can be? Montreal should be one of the first names on the list in my opinion.
It was a real change from those boring Tilkedromes.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 19:27 (Ref:2711379)   #136
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Any reason why Webber didnt take the position if Vettels car was wounded?
It is a great conspiracy driven by aliens.

Or he just wasn't close enough.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 21:44 (Ref:2711490)   #137
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An entertaining late afternoon race. TGF.....hmmmmmm, naughty stuff but very watcheable telly...still, great fun to see and wince, especially stuffing it with Massa onto the grass, he will never drink the rosso in Italy again...credit due to Force India; fantastic stuff, to finish in the points, with the first corner coming together. Felt sorry for Kubica, had a coming together with someone whose name I forget....
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 21:46 (Ref:2711491)   #138
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I see kubica got a wrap on the knuckles for his pit entry, and quite right too, would have been a big smash if they had come together!
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 21:48 (Ref:2711495)   #139
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Adrenalin run...makes for great TV..although YAY!!!!!! That was a close one....
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 21:51 (Ref:2711498)   #140
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Wonder how Liuzzi would've fared if he hadn't ballsed upin T1-T2?? He still beat Sutil after all.

Massa showed some spirit coming through after that 'touring car' racing style barding match at T1-T2. Shame he's been given a penal.

Race to forget for McBrawn. Schu very strong early on but then went a bit crazy and Rosberg was done for after nearly having to stop to avoid Liuzzi and Massa coming out of T2.

Alonso could've won as he said. It is true that he lost some time just before his pit stop and then getting baulked by the Lotus later on allowing Button to pounce.

However the Alonso of old wouldn't have let Lewis through so easily in a last of the late brakers match like that would he?
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 21:53 (Ref:2711500)   #141
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Well Schumi wasn't great or nice. Rather pathetic, but I guess you can't expect somebody like him to realize that his actions are crossing the line considering he is racing for nothing (oposed to a WDC).

But I though the Kubica pit entry was far more ruthless, useless and dangerous than anything MS did today. Just plain stupid. In my opinion that guy is starting to develop a questionable attitude. It's not the first time he seems to think he is oh-so-much-smarter than everyone else. Seems like he and Vettel both took lessons at the Schuey On And Off Track Behaviour School. So actually I found it amusing that Kubica and Schumi got into a little brawl and wouldn't have minded seeing both cars taken out.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 21:58 (Ref:2711505)   #142
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Oh yes I agree, and someone please note..give a year or two I see Kubica as a new ruthless WC, a clone of TGF. Not saying I mind..years ago, everyone got out of the way of Michael; now no ones scared of him; hes rattled which will make for great races later as Ross gets the car sorted..
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Kubica, someone will grab him and make him WDC, and it wont be Ferrari.
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Old 13 Jun 2010, 22:19 (Ref:2711522)   #144
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Not saying I mind..years ago, everyone got out of the way of Michael; now no ones scared of him; hes rattled which will make for great races later as Ross gets the car sorted..
I hope so, otherwise (IMO) we could see both walk away
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Well Schumi wasn't great or nice. Rather pathetic, but I guess you can't expect somebody like him to realize that his actions are crossing the line considering he is racing for nothing (oposed to a WDC).
Why not? Should he think he has carte blanche just because he is mired in midfield mediocrity?

But what a race. Welcome back Montreal!
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Finally got to see a replay of the race and the first half was great, but I cannot believe McLaren didn't get a penalty for releasing Hamilton into the path of Alonso, especially after the reprimand they got in China. Lewis and McLaren copped their fair share of penalties in the past but seem to be teflon this season.

I thought Button drove a very good race and RBR screwed the pooch with strategy again. Still it makes for a good WDC contest.
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Finally got to see a replay of the race and the first half was great, but I cannot believe McLaren didn't get a penalty for releasing Hamilton into the path of Alonso, especially after the reprimand they got in China. Lewis and McLaren copped their fair share of penalties in the past but seem to be teflon this season.
With the race being held in North America, they are used to that sort of thing in IndyCar, so they let it go.
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That incident was scary, when Sutil overtook Kubica and the latter continued at full speed into the pits cutting across Sutil's line. They should move the pitlane entrance speeding line further towards the corner to avoid such situations from happening again. If cars exiting for the pits were at approximately the same speed than those braking for the final chicane, the chance of accidents would be greatly reduced.
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Well Schumi wasn't great or nice. Rather pathetic, but I guess you can't expect somebody like him to realize that his actions are crossing the line considering he is racing for nothing (oposed to a WDC).

But I though the Kubica pit entry was far more ruthless, useless and dangerous than anything MS did today. Just plain stupid. In my opinion that guy is starting to develop a questionable attitude. It's not the first time he seems to think he is oh-so-much-smarter than everyone else. Seems like he and Vettel both took lessons at the Schuey On And Off Track Behaviour School. So actually I found it amusing that Kubica and Schumi got into a little brawl and wouldn't have minded seeing both cars taken out.
It's been an interesting season for Seminary students who never before had a reference point when left to ponder the age-old theological question... "How would God deal with being signed by one of the mid-pack F1 teams?"

Or as the silver plastic wrist bands seen in the paddock this season put it best... WWSD?
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That incident was scary, when Sutil overtook Kubica and the latter continued at full speed into the pits cutting across Sutil's line. They should move the pitlane entrance speeding line further towards the corner to avoid such situations from happening again. If cars exiting for the pits were at approximately the same speed than those braking for the final chicane, the chance of accidents would be greatly reduced.
But unless they get it exactly right they might then end up with cars having to slow more for the pit entry than for the chicane. On the racing line. I don't think a perfect solution is possible without redesigning that part of the track - but keeping it as it is and making it absolutely clear that behaviour such as Kubica's won't be tolerated should be enough.
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