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So let me get this straight, you shout about technical differences between the team, Fisi not getting a fair share. I take it as technical bias (which is your argument) I then respond to it (the shouting). Then you claim that i started all this. Are you just trying to annoy someone because i question your argument? Or whatever reasons you have. But i clearly responded to your shouting, you then responded back. Since when does that make me the starter of all of this?? basically i dont care who started it. BUT if you are going to ramble on about inaccurate claims.....then of course i am going to respond. |
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12 Jun 2005, 21:10 (Ref:1326736) | #130 | ||
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The other forum is down.....thats why I'm here....
Anyway, gotta get this off my chest... Fisi is incredibly unlucky. Today he made no mistakes, was still quick when conserving tyres and brakes, something we have seen can be bad if not done (kimi - tyres, trulli - brakes, etc) and yet his hydraulics let him down whilst leading. He didn't have to let Alonso past, in fact Fisi didn't put a foot wrong, Alonso struggled through traffic, went wide a few times, yet has the luck of his reliable car...until he plonks it in the wall. And this AFTER Fisi had retired. Renault didn't screw Fisi around, they just reminded him of Alonso being faster. He wouldn't have let him past. He wants to win. I'd say Alonso is feeling the pressure, Fisi just has no luck. |
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15 Jun 2005, 08:48 (Ref:1329049) | #132 | |
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Guys, pheraps it is just time to see the things how they really look like:
to me it was clear since the beginning (having started the thread after Barhain GP) that Fisico was about to have a very "unlucky" season. Not because I'm a wizard, but simply because I have the chance to go to the races and see and hear directly what the press doesn't reports... Also it is no mistery Flavio doesn't like Fisico and took him with him for obvious reasons: 1- letting him to go to Williams he could have ultra-beaten Flavio's driver Webber; 2- Having him in the team he can manage Fisico to stay behind his beloved Fernando; 3- He took away from the field a potential 2005 champion. Imagine if Fisico was in Williams now considering his huge talent to set up the car and make the team to work in the good direction... I'm sure Williams could have been a serious pretender to the championship at this stage. Now you can say there is no conspiracy, but call it as you like, but it is simply not just bad luck... |
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I'm new to the BB. Some of you may know me (if you read the ATLAS BB). I've been a big fan and defender of Fisi for years now. The latest outburst from Braitore is unacceptable and indicates an agenda. When we see quotes such as "we pay Fisi to race, not get ****ed off" and "if he doesn't like it here, he can leave".........well, we have to wonder what is to be gained from these statements.? I have to think that for whatever reason, Flavio is trying to destabilise Fisi. Do they want to bring Montagny or Kovalainien into a race seat soon? That is admittedly a bit far fetched, but there is no sense in critisizing a driver who has just retired from the lead, with mechanical failure. Then to add insult, Flavio excuses Alonso, after making a driving error. What's up with this? Can you all imagine if the reverse had happened: What if Fisi had inherited the lead from Alonso, in the same manner, and then hit the wall and retired? Flavio would've been acrimonious and no doubt would've stated that Fisi was given a great opportunity and blew it. There is an agenda with Flavio. Will it be revealed soon? |
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Welcome arthurive,
My main comment is one I've made previously. Fisi knew what he was getting into, so he can't really complain can he? Although I don't recall loads of teams queing up to employ him. Whilst I don't see Flav as being Fisi's number one fan I do find it hard to believe he would sabotage one of his own cars just to enhance the reputation of his "favoured" driver. So there may be an agenda working here, and you are entitled to that opinion. |
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I did not intend (nor do I believe) to imply that Flavio or anyone at Renault is deliberately trying to mess with Fisi's car. No way. What I'm suggesting is that Flavio already has decided that he doesn't want Fisi around in 2006 and he's staring to play head games with Fisi. You are correct to say that there wasn't a load of teams ready to employ Fisi. I don't know what Fisi's future holds for him. I do think there is a good chance that he'll be out of Renault in 2006. Where would he go? There are a number of rumours going around about driver movements in 2006. Michael could retire. Rubens could be off to BAR. Webber may be moved to Renault at the behest of Flavio. Heidfeld and BMW may be off to Sauber. Coulthard in the frame at BAR and of course Red Bull. Button over to Williams. There are many possibilities for Fisi in 2006. Obviously, his stock has fallen in 2005 and that does not bode well for his future, but I haven't given up yet. He still may be able to salvage enough of 2005 to save his future. |
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Hmm,
Yes many rumours, we'll just have to wait and see. In the meantime let's hope things start to come round for him. |
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