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And No. We didn't say Manning was OK with this as well this. this thread is about Danica not Manning. If I was a IRL driver I would be very annoyed. Danica has a 50 pound weight advantage but still can't win a race despite all her chances as she just makes mistakes. On a road course when driver talent is required at it's maximum Danica qualified for the race in the middle of the field at her best performances. When she was testing the 'new power-assist steering' at Mid-Ohio & Sears Point... Danica qualified on the front row of the grid. Amazing considering she struggled before at them. Other Indy Racing League drivers wern't aware she was running the 'new power-assist steering' in races (other than Manning) and were understandably angry when they found out last weekend at the Detroit Indy Grand Prix at Belle Isle. When it was removed from her car in Detroit she qualified at mid-pack and 2 full seconds off the pace. I'm annoyed that big and strong drivers wont have their advantage they earned now that it will be easier to steer and drive for all in 2008. I wish the IRL weighed the drivers and race cars in one and use weight-ballast to make everyone equal. |
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I think big and strong drivers have an unfair advantage and that this should be evened up. They should either be forced to lose muscle or drive with 5p pieces for steering wheels. It's as ludicrous as being lighter than others!
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I think the grids should be handicapped based on:
1) Team Budget 2) Driver Weight 3) Driver IQ 4) Driver's Cardiovascular Stress Test Results I mean luke is right! Is it fair that Dario drives for a well funded team and gets everything he needs? Is it fair that Danica has smaller feet so she can operate the pedals more effectively? Is it fair that Manning is taller and can see over the bodywork more easily? Is it fair that TK is both quick and smart? Is it fair that Helio is good-looking and lighter than Sam Hornish? No! None of this is fair! That is why there should be a Department of the Handicapper General. someone should be adding ballast, taking away brain cells, and spreading the cash fairly. You know, for all the blather I read about fair and let the best driver/team win, reading the above is like reading something from a Vonnegut short story. But no, we are treated to missives about the dreaded weight advantage. Well, if that were the determining factor (or even a principal factor) than the heavier drivers should almost never win and the lighter drivers should almost never lose. Of course if anyone cares to explain how Michael Andretti could be the all-time race win leader in the CART days and he raced at over 180, or how AJ Foyt could have won at his weight as many races as he did over lighter drivers, please feel free to fill me in on that "anomaly." So based on weight, Dixon at 5' 10" and 150 lbs vs Dario Franchitti at 5' 9" and 155 lbs, Dario stands no chance at Chicagoland Sunday. Game Over. How did that tub 'o lard Franchitti ever win a race? It just isn't fair! Last edited by JohnSSC; 7 Sep 2007 at 09:56. |
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Again Luke on the money.
I have to say though we are off topic. Will Danica ever win a race? |
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I made a mountain out of a mole hill? There has been quite a bit of banging on about unfair advantages, and if we are discussing whether a driver or any driver will win a race than this is certainly on topic.
So I would posit that when painting anything as "ridiculous" one may find that using such a brush may cover more than the posts that one disagrees with. |
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Do you two want to get a private forum to yourselves and have a fight to the death? That's about 4 threads I've read today that have become arguments. Let's all settle down and enjoy a nice calming Friday. Ahhhhhhh
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Well atleast she never lacks self belief.
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And I do believe she can win one day. But under 'different' circumstances to a normal race. However she is in a top team and valuable set up and experience at her feet. I'm sure Vitor Meria would have won this year if he had the seat. But like I said; we'll see. Last edited by luke; 7 Sep 2007 at 15:05. |
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To put all this in perspective, she has never won a car race of any kind. Ever.
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I wouldn't bet my pay on it.
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I believe it is Adam.
We know she had a highish postion at the Formula Ford Festival at Brands Hatch one year because there was a last lap crash but I don't believe she has ever won a race, not even in karting? |
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Third in Formula Toyota Atlantic 2004. Runner up in Formula Ford Festival 2000. 2007 IRL IndyCar Series 16 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 3 podiums. 1 fastest lap. 2006 IRL IndyCar Series Championship position: 9 (302 points) 13 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 2005 IRL IndyCar Series Championship position: 12 (325 points) 17 races. 0 wins. 3 pole positions. 0 podiums. 2004 Formula Toyota Atlantic Championship position: 3 (269 points) 12 races. 0 wins. 1 pole position. 3 podiums. 2003 American Le Mans Series GTS Championship position: 23 (10 points) 1 race. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. Formula Toyota Atlantic Championship position: 6 (109 points) 12 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 2 podiums. 2002 Barber Dodge Pro Series Championship position: 13 (35 points) 5 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 2001 UK Formula Ford Championship Championship position: 25 (10 points) ? races. ? wins. ? pole positions. ? podiums. 2000 European Formula Ford Championship Championship position: no position ? races. ? wins. ? pole positions. ? podiums. Formula Ford Festival Race position: 2. UK Formula Ford Championship Championship position: 19 (3 points) 4 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 1999 Formula Vauxhall Championship position: 9 (31 points) ? races. ? wins. ? pole positions. ? podiums. Source http://www.driverdb.com/racingdriver229.html Speaks for itself really |
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There are some ? However, danke.
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