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v8supes · 13 Jul 2023, 10:01 (Ref:4168209)

Car was revealed in the flesh at Goodwood 30 minutes ago. It looks amazing, so much better than the digital renders.

GT3_Fan · 13 Jul 2023, 10:47 (Ref:4168220)

Call my opinion to be a let down some here. Its supposed to be a Lamborghini! This looks like a DPI car. I don't see any Lambo features. It sort of masked by that cool lime green lambo livery. But the lack of lambo features is noticeable when you look past the livery.

Mike E · 13 Jul 2023, 12:58 (Ref:4168234)

Official launch video

https://youtu.be/f3HYp7FYWhM

**Adam43** · 13 Jul 2023, 13:15 (Ref:4168235)

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Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

Call my opinion to be a let down some here. Its supposed to be a Lamborghini! This looks like a DPI car. I don't see any Lambo features. It sort of masked by that cool lime green lambo livery. But the lack of lambo features is noticeable when you look past the livery.

Looks quite angular and deglo.

The alternative to a LMDh Lamborghini is no Lamborghini. There weren’t going to go to the expense of developing a Hypercar.

tomcug · 13 Jul 2023, 13:57 (Ref:4168239)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

There weren’t going to go to the expense of developing a Hypercar.

Purely in terms of looks, why would a Lambo LMH have a different bodywork design?

broadrun96 · 13 Jul 2023, 14:36 (Ref:4168241)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Looks quite angular and deglo.

The alternative to a LMDh Lamborghini is no Lamborghini. There weren’t going to go to the expense of developing a Hypercar.

Looks Lambo to me, see previous carving and shaping car with a hatchet, Lamborghini style

veeten · 13 Jul 2023, 14:39 (Ref:4168243)

Exactly, remember the Aston Martin Valkyrie , while it was an LMH, had the trademark front grille that's been around since the 60's. Otherwise, the general public wouldn't know it on pure observation without it.

It's the reason IMSA went with these "styling cues" since DPi was created, to give manufacturers a connection to their top level racers besides a trademark emblem sticker on the side of the engine cover.

KlBD · 13 Jul 2023, 15:19 (Ref:4168251)

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Originally Posted by tomcug

Purely in terms of looks, why would a Lambo LMH have a different bodywork design?

Probably it would be due to packaging of the components, you'd figure it would have a front axle motor if they had chosen to make an LMH.

As is, the bodywork is pretty interesting, looks like they've moved the sidepod intakes to the upper deck, having been quite aggressive with the tunnels on either side of the nose.

**Adam43** · 13 Jul 2023, 15:39 (Ref:4168254)

You’ve got a bit more scope, I think, with Hypercar to do whatever it might be that is considered Lamborghini like.

veeten · 13 Jul 2023, 16:38 (Ref:4168266)

Once again, it comes back to cost, as Audi has decided to take what they have and go to Formula1, choosing to go with LMDh leaves a major manufacturer like VAG plenty on the plate for Porsche and Lamborghini, wether they decided for LMH or the other.

The cosmetics come from Lambo's designs be it the Aventedor, Gallardo, or others. And, once again, they haven't disappoint. Fresh and revelevent...

**joeb** · 13 Jul 2023, 23:36 (Ref:4168311)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

You’ve got a bit more scope, I think, with Hypercar to do whatever it might be that is considered Lamborghini like.

Echoing my comments from a different thread, they have a bespoke chassis with the Ligier, and everything else, except hybrid unit, is bespoke to this car. How much different does that make it vs a LMH?

Also, I like it! And think how cool this would look if Vanwall wasn't already in these colors!

broadrun96 · 13 Jul 2023, 23:46 (Ref:4168313)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Echoing my comments from a different thread, they have a bespoke chassis with the Ligier, and everything else, except hybrid unit, is bespoke to this car. How much different does that make it vs a LMH?

Also, I like it! And think how cool this would look if Vanwall wasn't already in these colors!

How dare you besmirch the quality of the Vanwall by calling an LMP2 car anything but off the shelf trash and comparing an LMDh to LMH is just utter nonsense

TF110 · 14 Jul 2023, 05:07 (Ref:4168325)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Echoing my comments from a different thread, they have a bespoke chassis with the Ligier, and everything else, except hybrid unit, is bespoke to this car. How much different does that make it vs a LMH?

Also, I like it! And think how cool this would look if Vanwall wasn't already in these colors!

Right! Only other thing related to lmdh's is the standard transmission which goes with the hybrid unit. But even then you can tune it with your own ratios. So far this is the most unique of the lmdh as the others all have at least 2 manufacturers using the same chassis. Acura was alone but Alpine is going to Oreca. So far Ligier is Lamborghini only.

Steve McQ · 14 Jul 2023, 11:13 (Ref:4168358)

I was reading the statements following Lambo uncovering the LMDh, and Iron Lynx is pretty much everywhere. Could it be possible that they financed part of the program along side Lamborghini, like ESM's Ed Brown did with Nissan in DPi ?

broadrun96 · 14 Jul 2023, 11:31 (Ref:4168361)

They are running the cars so they would be mentioned

**joeb** · 14 Jul 2023, 13:37 (Ref:4168370)

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Originally Posted by Steve McQ

I was reading the statements following Lambo uncovering the LMDh, and Iron Lynx is pretty much everywhere. Could it be possible that they financed part of the program along side Lamborghini, like ESM's Ed Brown did with Nissan in DPi ?

Maybe, but I do think there had been talks of a Lambo LMDh going almost all the way back to when Audi and Porsche announced their programs. But at that time it was going to be based on the same Multimatic chassis. So this program has changed somewhat from inception.

tomcug · 14 Jul 2023, 16:29 (Ref:4168394)

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Originally Posted by joeb

But at that time it was going to be based on the same Multimatic chassis. So this program has changed somewhat from inception.

I think in the end it's not bad at all that Audi axed their LMDh. Now we have two completely different cars from VAG group, otherwise we'd have three different variations of 963 with different badges put on the car

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Originally Posted by joeb

Echoing my comments from a different thread, they have a bespoke chassis with the Ligier, and everything else, except hybrid unit, is bespoke to this car. How much different does that make it vs a LMH?

Gearbox, battery, MGU are spec and that's the main difference I think. However with LMH you can design everything in house, with LMDh you must hire a constructor to help you build the carbon tub... which is Lambo exclusive in this case

**Adam43** · 14 Jul 2023, 16:43 (Ref:4168399)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Maybe, but I do think there had been talks of a Lambo LMDh going almost all the way back to when Audi and Porsche announced their programs. But at that time it was going to be based on the same Multimatic chassis. So this program has changed somewhat from inception.

I’ve been guilty of only a cursory glance at potential programs until we get an actual cars (I blame Aston

or all those McLaren stories!). I’d missed that it wasn’t the same chassis as Porsche.

Cool.

Gerard C · 14 Jul 2023, 16:49 (Ref:4168401)

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Originally Posted by tomcug

I think in the end it's not bad at all that Audi axed their LMDh. Now we have two completely different cars from VAG group, otherwise we'd have three different variations of 963 with different badges put on the car

v8supes · 14 Jul 2023, 18:04 (Ref:4168422)

Is it true that Lamborghini wont sell customer cars either? We are going to be stuck with only customer Porsches, arent we?

Mike E · 14 Jul 2023, 18:12 (Ref:4168423)

Don't know about Lambo but customer Ferraris are looking unlikely.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...than-expected/

Steve McQ · 15 Jul 2023, 10:15 (Ref:4168494)

https://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/...imsa/10495683/

Lamborghini program looks set to be Iron Lynx exclusive and limited to 2 or three cars across Europe and USA.

RL17 · 15 Jul 2023, 18:26 (Ref:4168525)

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Originally Posted by KlBD

I think the official reveal is supposed to be at Goodwood tomorrow. Though this calls to mind the Porsche 963 launch, when the car's name and livery were accidentally revealed a few days early via a pop-up magazine subscription advertisement on Racecar Engineering

Waited a while outside their special unveil room but they faffed around for ages practising the unveil and then all disappeared and public weren’t allowed in later

Struggling to add photo from phone - is this possible?

**Adam43** · 15 Jul 2023, 19:03 (Ref:4168528)

Go advanced > Manage attachments > Chose file > photo library > …. > upload

hondafan37 · 17 Jul 2023, 13:36 (Ref:4168765)

I wonder when we will see the Alpine or the Lamborghini on the track.
The true version is usually different from the excivision version.
I remember reading that the Alpine tests began on June 28, however we have not seen anything.

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