Supercars Gen 3 (2022)

[banksie]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Are you sure they invested or did the ATCC/888 invest on their behalf (with the latter expecting returns from selling composite body panels)?

Fair question, and we won't know the precise answer. But GM were still willing to do the deal and remain involved in Supercars.

[FIRE]

Chevrolet is only selling Silverado and Corvette in Australia?

[chavez]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Chevrolet is only selling Silverado and Corvette in Australia?

Correct.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Chevrolet is only selling Silverado and Corvette in Australia?

Since they sold Opel & Vauxhall, exited Thailand production, and shut down Holden they don't have anything else RHD to sell.

Out of all that I do wonder what happened to GMDAT, formerly Daewoo.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Since they sold Opel & Vauxhall, exited Thailand production, and shut down Holden they don't have anything else RHD to sell.

Out of all that I do wonder what happened to GMDAT, formerly Daewoo.

Wonder why they sold them? I know times get difficult for some manufacturers, but it does seem a major blow to lose Holden.

Good question about GMDAT, they picked up Daewoo, but we don't seem to have heard much of them since

[FIRE]

I assumed they would sell some other Chevrolet models. Corvette is a niche model. I can imagine trucks are popular in Australia so they sell a decent amount of Silverado's.

Do Holden dealers, buyers and fans regret they remained part of GM instead of being sold like Opel and Vauxhall to PSA (now Stellantis)? I think in that case Holden would still exist.

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by FIRE

Do Holden dealers, buyers and fans regret they remained part of GM instead of being sold like Opel and Vauxhall to PSA (now Stellantis)? I think in that case Holden would still exist.

Yeah, that's actually something I wonder about as well. Kind of missed it at the time when it was done but it was never truly certain to me why Holden hasn't moved to PSA together with Opel and Vauxhall.
Even if that had been the case, Holdens would've been just rebranded Opels much as the last Commodore was and as I understand, this was hardly palatable for die-hard Holden fans in Australia. And given Insignia is being phased out all over the world (no longer sold in the UK and nearing its end elsewhere), Commodore name would either disappear or move to other cars, which are even less Commodore-ish than the last one.

[bluesport]

Supercars looking at new Gen3 engine parity testing

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/05/10...arity-testing/

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Yeah, that's actually something I wonder about as well. Kind of missed it at the time when it was done but it was never truly certain to me why Holden hasn't moved to PSA together with Opel and Vauxhall.

Holden had a go with Opel and it hadn't gone well. I certainly agree with the question as Opel seems to go OK in NZ.

The Insignia was actually a really good car - it just should never have been a Commodore.

the 2L turbo with 9sp auto, especially in a wagon, is a really good car.

[Matt K]

Agree on Insignia, my dad used to drive two versions (pre-facelift and the refreshed out but both the first generation) and both were very nice cars.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Supercars looking at new Gen3 engine parity testing

https://www.speedcafe.com/2023/05/10...arity-testing/

Why not organise an engine swap between one or both DJR and 888 cars for Symmons Plains? E.g., swap the engines between #17 and #97, and compare #97 with the Coyote to #88 with the original LS (and #17 with LS to #11 with Coyote).

If there is no engine disparity, then that would produce good "racing conditions" data to support that.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Why not organise an engine swap between one or both DJR and 888 cars for Symmons Plains? E.g., swap the engines between #17 and #97, and compare #97 with the Coyote to #88 with the original LS (and #17 with LS to #11 with Coyote).

If there is no engine disparity, then that would produce good "racing conditions" data to support that.

Or go to an airstrip and have Giz, Feeney or Brodie swap cars with Waters, Mostert or Reynolds. The cars would need to be impounded immediately after a race.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Holden had a go with Opel and it hadn't gone well. I certainly agree with the question as Opel seems to go OK in NZ.

The Insignia was actually a really good car - it just should never have been a Commodore.

the 2L turbo with 9sp auto, especially in a wagon, is a really good car.

That's such a shame seeing how great a brand Holden has been in Oz. Just doesn't feel the same without them

[GTRMagic]

From This Clip about the CoolDrive car..

..could you conclude that V8Supercar is fiddling with engine maps on the run…
..and could you further conclude that the change after the first session led to a reduction in speed and therefore competitiveness of the #3 CoolDrive car?

And if so.. when can CoolDrive Racing, for example, expect a cheque from V8Supercars for a lack of competitiveness, and the accompanying lack of teev air time as the car was at the back

Why are teams testing on the run??

Can KRE rustle up enough Gen3 Chevrolets to power the whole field and bump off this ineffectiveness means of carrying out reparitising engine performance in public?

Madness all…