IMSA USCC in 2016 and 2017 - Page 68

Coach Ep · 2 Sep 2015, 18:32 (Ref:3570805)

I'm sure OAK will be able to sell lots of parts for their current closed P2 car before shipping the current cars off to Asia after 2016/2017 to let them race in the Asian series until the end of 2018.

And it sounds like OAK is looking to set up some sort of joint venture with HPD for their American base!

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It [Onroak] recently hired Honda Performance Development engineer Ethan Bregman to also serve as Onroak’s U.S. representative, and further plans for expansion in the coming months.

“Onroak Automotive USA has been created administratively and it’s our obligation to be there for the time being,” Dumas said. “One of our thoughts is to do something with Honda Performance Development [in the future].”

PointDSM · 2 Sep 2015, 18:39 (Ref:3570807)

That reads to be correct. However, the Standard is a race-by-race charge, whereas the Premium is for "Full Season". Basically, it's a discount to do the full season (up front).

**joeb** · 2 Sep 2015, 18:56 (Ref:3570813)

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Originally Posted by PointDSM

That reads to be correct. However, the Standard is a race-by-race charge, whereas the Premium is for "Full Season". Basically, it's a discount to do the full season (up front).

So standard is 13,500 per race?

Lanky Turtle · 2 Sep 2015, 19:04 (Ref:3570814)

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Originally Posted by joeb

If I'm reading these correctly it costs $13,500 to be a Standard member, but then you have to pay between $122,250 and $152,750 in full season entry fees. While the Premium membership is $35,500 but only costs $69,000 to $86,000 in entry fees? So in other words a Premium membership costs more than a Standard?

That looks to be right, but only the premium members are eligible for the year end points fund. Also it seems the premium membership has some perks like annual hard cards for the crew and use of the VIP Paddock club so the VIP's can feel super special.

TzeiTzei · 2 Sep 2015, 19:26 (Ref:3570820)

The year end prize fund is $1,5m and the NAEC prize fund is $100k. Yet Atherton was talking something about $4m. What is that?

Coach Ep · 2 Sep 2015, 20:11 (Ref:3570831)

His own prize fund!

HORNDAWG · 2 Sep 2015, 20:31 (Ref:3570840)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

If I'm reading these correctly it costs $13,500 to be a Standard member, but then you have to pay between $122,250 and $152,750 in full season entry fees. While the Premium membership is $35,500 but only costs $69,000 to $86,000 in entry fees? So in other words a Premium membership costs more than a Standard?

Huh? Standard $13,500 + $122,250 =$135,750
v.s Premium $35,500 + $ 69,000 + $104,500
Just on the entry fees alone the PREMIUM is less for a full season. Also there are other things included, such as 10 crew license fees and credentials (License fee = $100. each and Creds = $450. each) as well as some perk stuff.

L.P.

Lanky Turtle · 2 Sep 2015, 20:36 (Ref:3570842)

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Originally Posted by TzeiTzei

The year end prize fund is $1,5m and the NAEC prize fund is $100k. Yet Atherton was talking something about $4m. What is that?

The other $2.4M was needed to construct the VIP Paddock club.

HORNDAWG · 2 Sep 2015, 20:56 (Ref:3570846)

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Originally Posted by TzeiTzei

The year end prize fund is $1,5m and the NAEC prize fund is $100k. Yet Atherton was talking something about $4m. What is that?

There is also purse (prize) money awarded for/at every race.

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...20%2315-01.pdf

L.P.

Coach Ep · 2 Sep 2015, 21:36 (Ref:3570855)

More on the expected GTD (GT3) boom:

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/12098...pping-for-2016

**joeb** · 2 Sep 2015, 22:37 (Ref:3570872)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Huh? Standard $13,500 + $122,250 =$135,750
v.s Premium $35,500 + $ 69,000 + $104,500
Just on the entry fees alone the PREMIUM is less for a full season. Also there are other things included, such as 10 crew license fees and credentials (License fee = $100. each and Creds = $450. each) as well as some perk stuff.

L.P.

Haha, bad typo, of course I meant Premium costs less. Which is why I was confused by the nomenclature.

TzeiTzei · 3 Sep 2015, 04:23 (Ref:3570933)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

There is also purse (prize) money awarded for/at every race.

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...20%2315-01.pdf

L.P.

Thanks!

Coach Ep · 3 Sep 2015, 13:09 (Ref:3571025)

Sounds like the Lexus campaign is a given at this point:

http://sportscar365.com/gt/lexus-rc-...ing-finalized/

Somewhere someone mentioned Team Walker as the (possible) selected team to run the car(s) - that should make a good fit. GTD is gonna be busy!

**joeb** · 3 Sep 2015, 13:34 (Ref:3571029)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Sounds like the Lexus campaign is a given at this point:

http://sportscar365.com/gt/lexus-rc-...ing-finalized/

Somewhere someone mentioned Team Walker as the (possible) selected team to run the car(s) - that should make a good fit. GTD is gonna be busy!

Vision out of the car seems pretty poor if the drivers are already bringing it up. Nonetheless it will be nice to see on track!

MaskedRacer · 3 Sep 2015, 16:08 (Ref:3571069)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

More on the expected GTD (GT3) boom:

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/12098...pping-for-2016

Question: In your opinion should the GTD category get rid of pro-am requirements? I think there could be a case for it. But I am interested in pros versus cons.

Coach Ep · 3 Sep 2015, 16:18 (Ref:3571072)

They could. Let the amateurs compete with the full pros and see what they're worth, I certainly wouldn't be opposed to that (I am not a fan of amateur specific classes anyway). But then there hardly would be any difference to GTLM I suppose.

Not sure what the reason behind your question is though, IMSA has no thoughts whatsoever to make such changes to the class. Care to explain?

FLGTFAN · 3 Sep 2015, 17:11 (Ref:3571098)

There is not going to be a boom of anything as long as the powers that be insist on managing GT3 as the bottom rung on their performance hierarchy. I see the class becoming a default R8 vs GT3R "challenge". It would suit the business model.

CyberMotor · 3 Sep 2015, 18:34 (Ref:3571131)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Vision out of the car seems pretty poor if the drivers are already bringing it up. Nonetheless it will be nice to see on track!

"You sit more-or-less like a DTM car. You can [almost] see nothing when you look out of it!"

That should make all the other drivers feel much safer.

YZFrider · 3 Sep 2015, 18:48 (Ref:3571133)

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Originally Posted by FLGTFAN

There is not going to be a boom of anything as long as the powers that be insist on managing GT3 as the bottom rung on their performance hierarchy. I see the class becoming a default R8 vs GT3R "challenge". It would suit the business model.

I'd also like to add that a potential boom likely is for 2-3 races (the big ones). Regular season entries are another matter

Rcz · 3 Sep 2015, 20:16 (Ref:3571162)

With all these luxury brands race at Daytona next year you think cadillac might enter?

They could at least have a customer program ready.

MagVanisher · 3 Sep 2015, 20:37 (Ref:3571168)

Or the Nissan GT-R GT3 car for that matter? Currently, it's competing with other marques a Pirelli World Challenge.

MoMedic9019 · 3 Sep 2015, 20:59 (Ref:3571178)

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Originally Posted by Rcz

With all these luxury brands race at Daytona next year you think cadillac might enter?

No.

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They could at least have a customer program ready.

GM/Pratt and Miller don't do customer.

They do corporate partnerships with those who are able to build the brand, and have the financial means to run it appropriately.. The single C7R run in the WEC is a very tight ship, and if GM chose to pull the plug tomorrow, they would and can.

Coach Ep · 3 Sep 2015, 21:44 (Ref:3571192)

A Nissan seems more likely than a Bentley (let alone the Cadillac) but then again I wouldn't count on it, right now at best I guess the odds are 50/50???

Remember this from early last year - it never materialized and Nissan went PWC in 2015 with Always Evolving/AIM.

hondafan37 · 4 Sep 2015, 01:43 (Ref:3571256)

Promising sketches from Dan Hounsell of 2017 IMSA P2/DP (Corvette, Bentley and Aston Martin)
https://twitter.com/crashgate917
http://mariantic.co.uk/lmp/p2.asp

MoMedic9019 · 4 Sep 2015, 03:46 (Ref:3571272)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

Promising sketches from Dan Hounsell of 2017 IMSA P2/DP (Corvette, Bentley and Aston Martin)
https://twitter.com/crashgate917
http://mariantic.co.uk/lmp/p2.asp

Dan does that for fun, he's a graphic designer.

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