[BTCC] Knockhill, 12th-13th August 2023 - Rounds 19, 20, 21

[AnnoyedMoose]

I can't recall any car being failed outside of the podium positions. If Excelr8 got it wrong how come they only got it wrong on those two cars?

[InYourMirrors45]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Is that statistically true?
Or does it seem that way because the top 3 are checked immediately prior to interviews (and so shown on camera) and are more likely to be reported on in the race summaries?

No idea I’ll be honest. But tell me the last time the guy who finished 10th got chucked out for ride height?

[redshoes]

I suspect Ingram knew he was in trouble before he got back to the pits. It's normal for drivers to deliberately run wide on the slow down lap to help pick up some of the rubber marbles and add a few mm to the ride height. Ingram seemed to be taking that to the extreme; he wasn't just running wide but almost driving off the track.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by InYourMirrors45

No idea I’ll be honest. But tell me the last time the guy who finished 10th got chucked out for ride height?

On quite a few occasions Addison and/or Harvey have mentioned that cars will be starting from the back of the grid because of technical infringements without mentioning what the infringement/s were, and on many occasions those cars were not in the top 10.

It's possible/probable that those times don't register in our memories because they weren't in the leading bunch.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

well tell us when was the last 2 times somebody out of top 3 was DQ for ride height

IIRC:
Bobby Thompson, Knockhill 2020 (16th)
Senna Proctor, Oulton Park 2019 (22nd)


Let's not also overlook the fact that if a team identified that they have made an error and sent a car out that will fail ride-height - a car running in 20th is likely to be retired, whereas a team running in the top 3 will probably risk it for the TV exposure anyway.

[Mike Harte]

According to the BARC's latest judicial reports a few moments ago (dated/timed @ 13:15), only Ingram's car has been disqualified.

[Jon411]

Sutton and Taylor-Smith have been penalised 1 second due to both gaining an unfair advantage

[SR18]

Originally Posted by Jon411

Sutton and Taylor-Smith have been penalised 1 second due to both gaining an unfair advantage

Sutton is gaining an unfair advantage since the start of the season

[porsche962fan]

they might as well just give Sutton the title now

[GT6]

Well here we go again, hope the technical infringement guys have had a rest they could be buy again

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by SR18

Sutton is gaining an unfair advantage since the start of the season

Ok I'll bite. How do you work that out?

[SR18]

Gamble such a dirty pig for pushing Turkington into the gravel

[porsche962fan]

HARD makes Huff look average at best

[crmalcolm]

A great example from Sutton and Hill of how you can race hard and fair, without resorting to bumping into each other.
The last ten or so laps were really intense and showcased the best of BTCC.

[SR18]

Originally Posted by AnnoyedMoose

Ok I'll bite. How do you work that out?

Because he is in an illegal car

[porsche962fan]

Hill and Tingram now both 30 points behind Sutton


title is done Sutton has his fourth title

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by SR18

Because he is in an illegal car

And you know it's illegal how and why has no team protested it?

[Evantra]

Nice to see Pearson keeping it up the sharp end, and Lloyd too.

Interesting that Cook on the mediums beat Ingram on the softs, so could be well placed for race 3.

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

A great example from Sutton and Hill of how you can race hard and fair, without resorting to bumping into each other.
The last ten or so laps were really intense and showcased the best of BTCC.

Exactly, classic BTCC at its best. Enjoyed that battle a lot and held my breath most of the time actually. Perfect battle, wish Sutton passed Hill but anyway, amazing drive for both of them.

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by SR18

Because he is in an illegal car

ahahaha joke of the day

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by SR18

Because he is in an illegal car

Interested to see where this goes. So I'll ask:

What about the car is illegal?
Is it just his, or all 4 NAPA cars?

[Matt K]

Btw, speaking of the allegedly illegal Focus, quite interesting that this weekend all NAPA cars, except Ash of course, seem pretty invisible. A stark contrast to Croft.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Btw, speaking of the allegedly illegal Focus, quite interesting that this weekend all NAPA cars, except Ash of course, seem pretty invisible. A stark contrast to Croft.

Don't you read the clamour for them to be impeded? They need to mask the performance of the car, or they'll have a restriction imposed.

[SR18]

Its as simple as that. BMWs were the best in 2019 and have been penalised. Ford are the best but were Not penalised. It's unfair which would make suttons title this year worthless

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by SR18

Its as simple as that. BMWs were the best in 2019 and have been penalised. Ford are the best but were Not penalised. It's unfair which would make suttons title this year worthless

So not illegal then - just that you feel they should be penalised because Sutton is driving so well?

Take a look here - https://tentenths.com/forum/showpost...postcount=2657 - and it could be seen that the BMW is the strongest chassis still.....