DTM 2007 News, Rumours, Entries... - Page 7

Paddockman · 31 Dec 2006, 20:45 (Ref:1802478)

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Originally Posted by Dr Venom

and merc have to agree, money i don't think would come into it, when you see that the best part of 125,000 people turned up for the norsring weekend in 06, looks like a intresting 07 season coming up. i for 1 hope that westbrook is in the mix next year, but i dont wont to see him in a 05 or even04 car (if they up the grid numbers), that would be a waste of talent in a tin-top. put him in a 06 and see the feathers fly, Spengler (07car) V Westy (06) bring it on. My Moneys on Westbrook every time

I'll have a tenner on that as well!

kmchow · 1 Jan 2007, 04:05 (Ref:1802620)

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Originally Posted by Dr Venom

and merc have to agree, money i don't think would come into it, when you see that the best part of 125,000 people turned up for the norsring weekend in 06, looks like a intresting 07 season coming up.

I'm going to sound very negative, but truth is, money is obviously the reason why more cars or manufacturers aren't racing in the DTM.

So what if 125K are watching the races?--How many are really going to buy an Audi or Merc after watching the races? While I love the DTM, I'm afraid it will soon disppear again in a few years if more manufacturers don't show up.

PS: I do love the DTM and touring cars so you can't question my loyalty there.

Dr Venom · 1 Jan 2007, 09:54 (Ref:1802695)

i agree that DTM needs more manufacturers, but the cars (04) are already made it needs a team to run them, not mothball the 4 currant "04" cars

**FIRE** · 1 Jan 2007, 13:27 (Ref:1802820)

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Magnusson

How come the grid number is constantly 20 cars? What stops Audi from adding one more?

Money & politics?

Besides budget reasons I think there's an agreement between Mercedes and Audi to enter each 10 cars (4 new, 4 1-year old and 2 2-year old cars). If Audi enters an extra car, Mercedes will do too. If Mercedes enters a car for a woman, Audi will do too. IMO DTM is a very artificial championship.

Hazard · 1 Jan 2007, 13:32 (Ref:1802829)

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Originally Posted by Dr Venom

and merc have to agree, money i don't think would come into it, when you see that the best part of 125,000 people turned up for the norsring weekend in 06, looks like a intresting 07 season coming up. i for 1 hope that westbrook is in the mix next year, but i dont wont to see him in a 05 or even04 car (if they up the grid numbers), that would be a waste of talent in a tin-top. put him in a 06 and see the feathers fly, Spengler (07car) V Westy (06) bring it on. My Moneys on Westbrook every time

Fairly unlikely though to see Westbrook in an '07 car. It's also not impossible for an impressive performance to be seen comparitively in the one year old cars. Spengler was in one year old machinery in 2005 when driving for Mercedes.

Gil Abobeleira · 1 Jan 2007, 16:35 (Ref:1802899)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Money & politics?

Besides budget reasons I think there's an agreement between Mercedes and Audi to enter each 10 cars (4 new, 4 1-year old and 2 2-year old cars). If Audi enters an extra car, Mercedes will do too. If Mercedes enters a car for a woman, Audi will do too. IMO DTM is a very artificial championship.

Just a crying shame over the real DTM: the one which ran on the Deutsch Group A rules...

(and they ran on the Nordscheleife, on AVUS, on the old Hockenheimring....)

kmchow · 1 Jan 2007, 20:57 (Ref:1802989)

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Originally Posted by Dr Venom

i agree that DTM needs more manufacturers, but the cars (04) are already made it needs a team to run them, not mothball the 4 current "04" cars

Yeah I totally agree, it's a real waste to mothball the '04s. to make them more competitive, they can always give them a lighter base weight to equalize their performance.

If they sell the '04 cars for cheap, they gotta find teams capable of running them properly. Especially for MB/Audi, they seem very concerned that a poorly run/financed team would make their cars and their brand look bad.

But BMW doesn't seem to care, if you have money, they'll sell you a car?

flor · 1 Jan 2007, 23:43 (Ref:1803096)

yeah, i don't like that attitude either :/

Dr Venom · 2 Jan 2007, 21:12 (Ref:1804253)

sorry to correct you hazard, but i put westy into a 06 car not a 07,

Hazard · 3 Jan 2007, 00:43 (Ref:1804392)

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Originally Posted by Dr Venom

sorry to correct you hazard, but i put westy into a 06 car not a 07,

No problems. Last few days I've not even been consistently sure what year it is

Claire · 3 Jan 2007, 08:28 (Ref:1804549)

Do you think Richard will get a drive in DTM for 2007? I am a supporter of his and would love to see him in DTM, it will be an excuse to do what I have been hoping to do for a couple of seasons and see some racing outside the UK! Which rounds would you recommend I try to get to, are the drivers and paddock easy to get to or are they kept away from the paying public?

gwyllion · 3 Jan 2007, 12:07 (Ref:1805057)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Audi seems to have too many drivers for their DTM seats. My guess:

2007: Kristensen, Ekstrom, Tomczyk, Luhr
2006: Rockenfeller, Abt, Scheider
2005 (Futurecom): whoever brings most money
unknown: Kaffer (LMS ?), Stippler (LMS ?), Ickx

An updated guess:

2007: Kristensen, Ekstrom, Tomczyk, Luhr (maybe Scheider)
2006: Rockenfeller, Abt, Scheider (maybe Luhr), Westbrook (maybe Bjork)
2005 (Futurecom): whoever brings most money
unknown: Kaffer (gone to LMS), Stippler (gone to LMS), Ickx (gone forever)

gwyllion · 3 Jan 2007, 14:51 (Ref:1805200)

According to http://touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=892 Mercedes has chosen Paul di Resta over Yelmer Buurman, Esteban Guerriri, Norbert Siedler and Casper Elgaard.

My guess on Mercedes lineup:

2007: Spengler, Schneider, Green, Häkkinen/Paffett (maybe Margaritis)
2006: Margaritis, la Rosa, Mücke, di Resta
2005: Lauda, Stoddart

Dr Venom · 5 Jan 2007, 23:57 (Ref:1807865)

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Originally Posted by Claire

Do you think Richard will get a drive in DTM for 2007? I am a supporter of his and would love to see him in DTM, it will be an excuse to do what I have been hoping to do for a couple of seasons and see some racing outside the UK! Which rounds would you recommend I try to get to, are the drivers and paddock easy to get to or are they kept away from the paying public?

theres a good chance richard will get a drive in DTM, we will have to wait and see, Best race to attend, imo norisring, great viewing and loads of history in walking distance of the track.

JMeissner · 5 Jan 2007, 23:59 (Ref:1807866)

Leaked DTM 2007 calendar?

Dr Venom · 6 Jan 2007, 00:25 (Ref:1807880)

think thats been on susie stoddarts web site for a ouple of weeks

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 6 Jan 2007, 20:42 (Ref:1808442)

MotorsTV commentator for DTM Mark Cole posted this on the MotorsTV forums the 17th of December. In the same post, he said that it had been in his possession for a couple of weeks

Jimmy Magnusson · 7 Jan 2007, 11:17 (Ref:1808731)

This appeared on a Swedish forum today:

Quote:

i auto motor och sport skrivs det:

DTM, ja tack. källor i ingolstadt hävdar att Thed Björk till **** kommer att få ett DTM kontrakt med Audi vilket betyder att STCC mästaren 2006 sannolikt inte kör på hemmaplan under 2007. ett hårt slag för TK Motorsport som måste skaffa fram två nya förare. VW polo cup mästaren jimmy johansson och JTCC-dito roger eriksson är aktuella.

mvh C

Basically, Björk to DTM seems likely if this is to be believed.

SALEEN S7R · 11 Jan 2007, 10:40 (Ref:1812194)

Autosport.com are today reporting that Paffet could return to the DTM, but in a 2006 spec car. Not really a good situation for Gary if you ask me, he deserves a 2007 spec car but it appears Norbert Hauug doesent want to change his line up. Personally I would put Paffet in one of the factory cars over Hakkinen or Green any day of the week.

flor · 11 Jan 2007, 12:44 (Ref:1812278)

The problem is they already have signed 4 drivers for 2007 cars and how i understand Haug, having 5 new cars is way more complicated than running 4, for whatever reasons.

SALEEN S7R · 11 Jan 2007, 15:40 (Ref:1812395)

True but they could always give the team Paffet is racing for a 2007 spec machine. He could run a 2007 spec car via a independent team surely? Providing of course Mercedes want to. Want being the operative word.

Go_For_Pole · 11 Jan 2007, 17:07 (Ref:1812475)

Now Paffet vs Margaritis sounds fun

kmchow · 15 Jan 2007, 03:23 (Ref:1815436)

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Originally Posted by SALEEN S7R

...he deserves a 2007 spec car but it appears Norbert Hauug doesent want to change his line up. Personally I would put Paffet in one of the factory cars over Hakkinen or Green any day of the week.

If Paffet was confirmed this late, that really puts Hauug in a bad position if he had to go back to Hakkinen or Green and now say we've changed our mind and will downgrade you to an older car.

Would Hakkinen accept an older car considering his contributions to MB in F1?

I guess the Jacques Villeneuve/DTM rumors didn't pan out? That's a shame. If raced in the DTM, I'm sure he would generate more interest/coverage from Canada. But I'm proud Canada has Spengler to represent them!

kmchow · 15 Jan 2007, 03:24 (Ref:1815438)

Has any new sponsors been announced. I assume Veltins is out of the DTM while Phillips was announced a while back. Any new sponsors?

werner · 15 Jan 2007, 09:06 (Ref:1815546)

Villeneuve does Le Mans and LMES for Peugeot next year, so we are not yet rid of him :-)

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