LMP2 Manufacturers and Engine Suppliers

[Deleted]

You know if there is one thing I love about current LMP2 is just the same what Sam Collins says - there is no really balance of performance in the class apart from baseline setups and some minor things put in place ages ago (like HPD restrictor etc). Couple of years ago, don't remember exactly when, I was kinda getting worried when the ACO actually said in a press release that the performances will now be modified further in necessarily - but it's all been very quiet in that front. There are no constant committee decision sheets coming out like in GTE. Which is excellent!

I suppose it's partly due to there not being real dominator like RS Spyder or sth out there in P2, but whatever the cause, it's great for the category. They could've messed it up, but they haven't. Chiana is pleased.

[Ken_T]

Is there any hybrid tech allowed in P2? For example, if Honda homologated the new coupe with some energy recovery tech?

[carbon_titanium]

LMP2 is more or less cost-capped. Hybrid technology is expensive, so I don't think will be allowed soon in lmp2

[Hawkwood]

Has anything been heard recently about the Tiga LMP2 car?
http://www.tigaracecars.com/LMP_cars.shtml

Apparently it's ready?
Is one or two likely to turn up next year?

[Victor_RO]

I thought Mike Newton mentioned something about starting to run the car later this year? And that was on RLM only about two weeks ago.

[Hawkwood]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

I thought Mike Newton mentioned something about starting to run the car later this year? And that was on RLM only about two weeks ago.

Thanks, I'd missed that.
I hope either Tiga run it themselves or sell a couple to someone else.

Some variety apart from just Morgans and Orecas is needed, variety is the spice of life after all.

[FstrthnU]

I think it's ripe time for an updated LMP2 list

Chassis:
HPD ARX-03b
HPD ARX-04b (2015)
Oreca 05 (2015)
OAK Morgan
Ligier JS P2
Oreca 03R
Zytek Z11SN
Pilbeam MP100 (2015)
Strakka-DOME S103
Lotus T128 (?)
Tiga LM214
Wolf
Adess (?)

Engine:
HPD (w/ ARX 04b)
Nissan
Judd/BMW
Ford Ecoboost (?)
Dinan-BMW
AER

[carbon_titanium]

Originally Posted by FstrthnU

I think it's ripe time for an updated LMP2 list

Chassis:
HPD ARX-03b
HPD ARX-04b (2015)
Oreca 05 (2015)
OAK Morgan
Ligier JS P2
Oreca 03R
Zytek Z11SN
Pilbeam MP100 (2015)
Strakka-DOME S103
Lotus T128 (?)
Tiga LM214
Wolf
Adess (?)

Engine:
HPD (w/ ARX 04b)
Nissan
Judd/BMW
Ford Ecoboost (?)
Dinan-BMW
AER

lotus T128 basicly is the adess lmp2; other cars like tiga or pilbeam are more or less vaporware. About engines, the ford ecoboost and the dinan-bmw are DP units, are not used in lmp2.

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

lotus T128 basicly is the adess lmp2; other cars like tiga or pilbeam are more or less vaporware. About engines, the ford ecoboost and the dinan-bmw are DP units, are not used in lmp2.

Pilbeam is vaporware, the Tiga is in development and we know that it should be based on the old Embassy/WFR LMP2. Ford Ecoboost - Libra used that engine in LMP2, but for a full 2 races. As for Dinan-BMW, they did announce that they could re-engineer their DP engine for LMP2 use if any customers were to turn up (which they haven't).

[Rodger Davies]

Some more engine variety would be nice bit otherwise looking good. Your list misses the Multimatic Lola, although I fear the end of them.

[carbon_titanium]

exact the lola b12/80 is missing. I know that tiga is still in development but realisticly I think that there isn't any customer intersted. Look at the bailey lmp2, the car exists since 2011 but nobody cared about that car...
You're right libra racing used a ford ecoboost engine in laguna seca 2012 if am I not wrong, and joint also TUSC test in late 2013... but (correct me if am I wrong) it was a different engine, not the one used by ganassi riley DP3.

[ger80]

Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

exact the lola b12/80 is missing. I know that tiga is still in development but realisticly I think that there isn't any customer intersted. Look at the bailey lmp2, the car exists since 2011 but nobody cared about that car...
You're right libra racing used a ford ecoboost engine in laguna seca 2012 if am I not wrong, and joint also TUSC test in late 2013... but (correct me if am I wrong) it was a different engine, not the one used by ganassi riley DP3.

Mike Newton (who used to race Lola run by RML) surely will race the Tiga, thats why he builds it in the first place.

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

You're right libra racing used a ford ecoboost engine in laguna seca 2012 if am I not wrong, and joint also TUSC test in late 2013... but (correct me if am I wrong) it was a different engine, not the one used by ganassi riley DP3.

I think it's the same engine architecture, but the DP engine is 300cc larger.

[pablocomics]

The Pilbeam MP100 is the MP93 painted in white at this moment. Pilbeam said that they was going to make a different bodywork in 2014 and I have no idea if they made any mechanical modification or the promised new engine made by Pillbeam.

[madfast]

Originally Posted by FstrthnU

I think it's ripe time for an updated LMP2 list

Chassis:
HPD ARX-03b
HPD ARX-04b (2015)
Oreca 05 (2015)
OAK Morgan
Ligier JS P2
Oreca 03R
Zytek Z11SN
Pilbeam MP100 (2015)
Strakka-DOME S103
Lotus T128 (?)
Tiga LM214
Wolf
Adess (?)

Engine:
HPD (w/ ARX 04b)
Nissan
Judd/BMW
Ford Ecoboost (?)
Dinan-BMW
AER

Oak racing team asia will also run a HPD engine in their Ligier JS P2

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Some more engine variety would be nice bit otherwise looking good. Your list misses the Multimatic Lola, although I fear the end of them.

I think the Lola's are still going strong in TUSC with the two Mazda cars.

[FstrthnU]

Ah yes, I'd totally forgotten about the Mazdas. With their latest performance I think we can respectably consider them LMP2 cars.

[Koenigsegg]

This picture from Endurance-Info of the Murphy car is interesting.


On the left side (of the picture) you have the normal Oreca 03 bodywork. But on the right side you have the Oreca 03R bodywork. It appears that the 03R bodywork must be placed on top of the 03 bodywork. Behind the front you can see the other front fender, which still needs to be put on.

This also explains why the headlights are so far back into the fender of the 03R.

Pretty interesting.

[joeb]

I guess that makes the update a bit cheaper, but it seems like it could be a aero burden if there was any air getting between the new and old fender.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by joeb

I guess that makes the update a bit cheaper, but it seems like it could be a aero burden if there was any air getting between the new and old fender.

There is a cost limit for the low-DF kit, so it makes a lot of sense...

[FstrthnU]

http://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=32456
SMP LMP2 to be crash-tested in November, then track tested to begin in November and December. 2-car entry planned for next year's WEC

[JoestForEver]

Originally Posted by FstrthnU

http://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=32456
SMP LMP2 to be crash-tested in November, then track tested to begin in November and December. 2-car entry planned for next year's WEC

Kudos for the Russian team! Glad to see that they still manage to race even with silly political warfare(whatever you call it).

[ger80]

Can we expect an announcement from Zytek this week?
Then said they will announce something in the near future when they sold the automotive business

[Koenigsegg]

Trying to list the P2 options (so far) for next year:

Cars for next year that are likely to race
Alpine A450b
HPD ARX-04b
Ligier JS P2
Morgan LMP2
Oreca 03R
Oreca 05
SMP Coupé
Strakka DOME S103
Wolf LMP2
Zytek Z11SN

Other possibilities (but probably less likely)
ADESS-02
HPD ARX-03b
Lola B12/80
Lotus T128

Maybe
Pilbeam MP100
Tiga LM214

Nobody is ever going to drive these (again)
Bailey LMP2
Lola B11/40
Norma MP200

[Pandemonium]

But the Adess 02 looks so cool in their brochure!!!