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Old 2 Sep 2004, 04:19 (Ref:1084403)   #151
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Trevor I have been unable to a word from TD. You probably would not expect to find one at this stage pre decision.
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 04:40 (Ref:1084411)   #152
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retro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridretro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I doub't there will be any press releases until after the hearing as there is/are Lawyers involved.
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 06:48 (Ref:1084438)   #153
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I can tell you what the TD press release will say.

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Old 2 Sep 2004, 08:23 (Ref:1084492)   #154
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Hypothetical. Say TD are found guilty. Given a fine and lose points for the year. They then rock up to Bathurst with a car that is perfect for the circuit due to the alleged illegal testing with extra sensors etc etc. Dominate the race and win. They were not a chance at the championship but have landed the biggest race of the year. Hollow victory in most fans eyes, but most of the country would not realise why, and TD would have a Bathurst victory recorded. could other teams protest result due to the setup information gained illegaly? Whole thing could get messy.
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 09:49 (Ref:1084563)   #155
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Team Dynamic have been caught, not IMS, its their car their crew their driver, and if they get off on some techniality involving IMS won't Cams/Avesco/Tega look like a bunch of fools.
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 11:00 (Ref:1084641)   #156
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Hypothetical. Say TD are found guilty. Given a fine and lose points for the year. They then rock up to Bathurst with a car that is perfect for the circuit due to the alleged illegal testing with extra sensors etc etc. Dominate the race and win. They were not a chance at the championship but have landed the biggest race of the year. Hollow victory in most fans eyes, but most of the country would not realise why, and TD would have a Bathurst victory recorded. could other teams protest result due to the setup information gained illegaly? Whole thing could get messy.
The rule itself is a little ambiguous (surprise surprise) and the penalty talks of a monetary fine (but doesnt explain if it is per offence), exclusion (but doesnt mention if that is for past or future participation or both) and loss of championship points (but again doesnt mention if that is for past or future participation or both)

So whatever happens, there is no statute to go playing with to determine an outcome. Similarly there is no precedent either.

Heading into such uncharted territory, Kelvin's lackeys at CAMS would want to be 1000% sure they have their junk together... or this could be tied up in appeals inside the CAMS/FIA system, or indeed progress to a civil court in the blink of an eye....
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:13 (Ref:1084717)   #157
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by the way ,person /s cannot enter WOOMERA test facilies without the permission of the traditional landowners , commonwealth australian government & the uk goverment. remember the traditional landowners control all movements at WOOMERA....
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:19 (Ref:1084724)   #158
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by the way ,person /s cannot enter WOOMERA test facilies without the permission of the traditional landowners , commonwealth australian government & the uk goverment. remember the traditional landowners control all movements at WOOMERA....
Makes the bloke who let Tony Manson on the site a little stressed then huh
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:26 (Ref:1084736)   #159
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who is that individual, by the way land rights are not to be ignored or transgressed .
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:28 (Ref:1084739)   #160
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He posted in this thread a little further up....
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:31 (Ref:1084745)   #161
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i am sure the land council would be very interested in what their land is being used for. wouldn't you????
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I presume so, but its better than having a detention centre there I suppose

Isnt the bigger question if Dynamik were allegedly testing at Woomera, who else has been leased/lent this facility & for what purpose.... and on who's authority....
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:43 (Ref:1084758)   #163
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:54 (Ref:1084771)   #164
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:57 (Ref:1084774)   #165
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morris 1100, does the trueth hurt ?????
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 12:59 (Ref:1084775)   #166
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I dunno! I have never seen any in your posts "pierre" or is that "spa eau rouge"!
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 13:08 (Ref:1084781)   #167
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 13:11 (Ref:1084785)   #168
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Old 3 Sep 2004, 08:47 (Ref:1085663)   #169
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The Dynamik stewards hearing will be next Thursday at Sandown.
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Old 3 Sep 2004, 08:50 (Ref:1085666)   #170
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Old 3 Sep 2004, 08:51 (Ref:1085668)   #171
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I would think it will go all day?
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Old 3 Sep 2004, 08:52 (Ref:1085671)   #172
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Sure... then the team lodges the request to appeal, and run the Sandown meeting whilst under appeal.. the next session of the judiciary likely to be the Thursday of Bathurst...

Really great timing huh....
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Is there a minimum ammount of time a franchise can be leased for? Maybe a month?
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