[WEC Race] WEC 2015 Round 2: Spa

[Ginaro Zukovsky]

For me the biggest advantage of the Eurosport player is being able to watch it on a smart TV - no messing about connecting laptops etc. And if the commentary gets boring, you can switch over to the ad-free natural sounds feed and fire up RLM on a phone or laptop. Plus the rewind function, onboards, 24 minutes, French Open and Superbikes!

[Matt]

So that's the second broken back suffered in a Toyota.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by J Jay

Well the "a second, couple of seconds" lead-in is a bit fanciful but had Hindhaugh started by saying 3 seconds instead of 1 or 2 I'm not sure either of us would be commenting on it! Going off the only metrics we have (Silverstone - 2014 F1 to 2015 LMP1) 3.78s off in qualifying and 3.66 off in the race is closer than it has been for a long time.

I'd say it was fair to think that LMP1 have improved their pace more than F1 cars have from last year. Of course the reasons behind that are a discussion for another time, thread and forum...

2014 F1 qualifying was damp so doesn't hold up as comparison.

Race does more yeah but only the last portion of the GP is comparable as that is when they have low fuel. And even then the crap Pirelli tyre management takes off the edge

Also the 2015 F1 cars are a bit faster than last year, not to the LMP1 %, but still

[Gingers4Justice]

Originally Posted by Chiana

And in any case while as a whole the ES commentary is obviously inferior, of course it is, I'm probably the only one in the world who cannot stand Truswell giving trivial notebook information about pit stop lengths and fuel stints and who came in on lap 247 after every 20 seconds. Sorry people have different tastes.

Such analysis is not to everyone's tastes but I would hardly describe Truswell's comments as "trivial". If you're trying to understand the teams' strategies, they're essential. Fair enough if you're not into that kind of thing and you find it boring but at the front of the field, the entire story of the race is about stint lengths, average lap times and time spent in the pits. Races are won and lost on these sums.

Listening to RLM trackside at Silverstone, without Truswell I was completely at a loss as to how the #2 Toyota was in the lead for so long.

Obviously it's about taste, but I have to disagree that his comments are trivial.

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Such analysis is not to everyone's tastes but I would hardly describe Truswell's comments as "trivial". If you're trying to understand the teams' strategies, they're essential. Fair enough if you're not into that kind of thing and you find it boring but at the front of the field, the entire story of the race is about stint lengths, average lap times and time spent in the pits. Races are won and lost on these sums.

Listening to RLM trackside at Silverstone, without Truswell I was completely at a loss as to how the #2 Toyota was in the lead for so long.

Obviously it's about taste, but I have to disagree that his comments are trivial.

I like an occasional bit of stint/timing/pit information and obviously when it's something essential to the flow of the race I want to know of it, but I'm not a fan of being continuously being fed every little bit of tidiest things that's been written in the notebook. It becomes hyper technical - guess I should've used that word instead of trivial - and something that would never pass if he was on TV, not in such amounts. I appreciate the effort he puts into it but it's just dry to me, dry dry dry. Some color is needed.

Anyway just my bit. The rest of the gang is great

[Artur]

Originally Posted by Chiana

Old WEC streaming even used to cover FP3, and FP1+FP2(+warm-up) were on RLM. Times change...

Tip for you all.

At Silverstone, FP3 was broadcasted in the application. I heard from a friend that they usually do that to test the broadcasting for qualifying.

My friend even shared with me FP3 onboards of the LMP1s, on that wet track of the moment.

Originally Posted by J Jay

I'd say it was fair to think that LMP1 have improved their pace more than F1 cars have from last year. Of course the reasons behind that are a discussion for another time, thread and forum...

F1 barely improved. At Sepang they were even slower than the 2014 times... Even when they improve, it's just by 0,5s or so.

LMP1s, meanwhile, improved 3s on a green track. This improvement can be up to 5s, on a rubbered in track, going by the Prologue

Originally Posted by Chiana

2014 F1 qualifying was damp so doesn't hold up as comparison.

Yes but WEC's was on a completely green track after rainy FP3. I would guess the qualifing gap is around 6s now. It was over 10s a couple of years ago.

I say this because GP2 poles were 7 to 7,5s slower than F1's, last year(I looled into all dry qualifyings for both: Abu Dhabi, Sochi, Monza, Hockenheim, Austria, Monaco, Barcelona, Bahrain. Only expection were Monaco, Barcelona and Bahrain where GP2s were only 6s, 4s and 5,5s off, respectively. All others were in the 7-7,5s). GP2's pole, on a dry Silverstone, was 1.40.4. So, F1's pole would be, at best, around 1.33.0

On a rubbered in track, I think Porsche's pole could be at 1.38.0. So, even if F1 2015 improve 1s at Silverstone(which is a stretch already), that would mean only 6s.

[chernaudi]

If I were the ACO and FIA, I'd try and schedule a practice session before noon, because that's about the biggest significant dry slot until Saturday.

Other than that, the teams will just have a bunch of notes that don't mean much.

[TF110]

I wonder if theyll give the teams more time in fp3?

[chernaudi]

It'd be helpful if FP3 is dry or has a big dry slot in it, but most recent forecast that I've seen doesn't look very encouraging for Friday afternoon. Maybe bring back the morning warm up or "Happy Hour" pre-race practice session? The WEC have done away with it for almost all sprint races, and only for LM is it a regular feature now.

[GT6]

Just a quick note that i am already missing Spa and i hope all of those already there or due to go have a great time; i will be watching the race on TV but it is just not the same as being there

[andy_b]

WEC Spotter Guide updated, few driver and livery updates. www.spotterguides.com Will be last update, so consider this final LOL

[Spyderman]

I dont know if this is being too optimistic, but....http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Raci...s-Circuit.aspx

[GT-Eins]

Further pictures to be found in our race-report, including statistics, results and the usual stuff:
http://www.gt-eins.de/Berichte2015/w...l&gal=Training

[maximus]

Originally Posted by Chiana

And in any case while as a whole the ES commentary is obviously inferior, of course it is, I'm probably the only one in the world who cannot stand Truswell giving trivial notebook information about pit stop lengths and fuel stints and who came in on lap 247 after every 20 seconds. Sorry people have different tastes.

No I was only joking I actually agreed with the point I bolded yesterday. I agree that it's a better deal although I'd pay extra just to get away from the awful (except Marin Haven and a couple of others) Eurosport commentary.

That said I do think the WEC coverage offered several on boards, I tried to view them via the App at Silverstone (no 4G at the circuit with the most modern facilities in the UK in 2015? Seriously!?) and I'm sure I counted something in the region of 10 I could choose from. The little circuit map with the positions of the cars was cool too. That said, it is hugely disappointing that they used to stream the practices for free and now they don't seem to when you are paying for it, if things don't change I won't be renewing my subscription for 2016.

[carbon_titanium]

has anyone tried to access to eurosport player using the playstation 4 web browser?

[bella]

Originally Posted by maximus

(no 4G at the circuit with the most modern facilities in the UK in 2015? Seriously!?)

off topic but... i'm on ee and had 4g on half the circuit. inside of copse, no dice. on the steps at the wing, and around the wing? worked fine. on sunday the 3g network fell over completely though, couldn't get data on that or gprs at all.

[claude2cv]

[QUOTE=GT-Eins;3532451]Further pictures to be found in our race-report, including statistics, results and the usual stuff:
http://www.gt-eins.de/Berichte2015/w...l&gal=Training


Thanks for sharing the pictures, great photos and we can see exactly why the times were slow.

Sean

[maximus]

Originally Posted by bella

off topic but... i'm on ee and had 4g on half the circuit. inside of copse, no dice. on the steps at the wing, and around the wing? worked fine. on sunday the 3g network fell over completely though, couldn't get data on that or gprs at all.

I used GiffGaff (O2) and Three, seemed to get full signal strength 3G everywhere but just wouldn't jump to 4G. I'm glad I didn't get the portable hotspot device I was looking at now! Anyway, sorry I'll keep it on topic from now on!

[justracing]

Originally Posted by andy_b

WEC Spotter Guide updated, few driver and livery updates. www.spotterguides.com Will be last update, so consider this final LOL

I've been trying to download this for the race but keep getting error message, any ideas?

[JCE.72]

This has been briefly discussed already but didn't see a clear answer yet (as far anyone would know).

WEC offical website:

"For the first 4500 people who pre ordered their tickets, there is the opportunity to get an autograph, grab a ‘selfie’ or just shake hands with their favourite drivers during the autograph session"

Was this also @ Silverstone? As far as I know the previous years everyone could enter the Pit Walk/Autograph sessions on Saturday?

[tux]

The FP3 session should be dry!

At Silverstone i think it was the first 2000 tickets were eligible for the pitwalk?

[TF110]

Dry track out there!

Edit- 4 laps in, and lmp1 already in the 1:59's

[Ginaro Zukovsky]

Someone mentioned the app showed FP3 at Silverstone whilst getting ready for qualifying, do we have any working VLC links for Spa?

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by Ginaro Zukovsky

Someone mentioned the app showed FP3 at Silverstone whilst getting ready for qualifying, do we have any working VLC links for Spa?

Unless someone at the track is filming the big screens then there won't be anything.



Loving this pace from the new guys in the #19 Porsche.

[Flem]

Maybe an old fashioned Tortoise and Hare at Le Mans?