Team Williams: Do they have a spare tub? - Page 7

Nononsensecapeesh · 19 Jul 2018, 21:51 (Ref:3837602)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

The article didn’t say, but I bet Papa Stroll can outbid Checo’s sponsors.

Had a feeling it might be Perez, can't see a Mercedes-supported team letting Merc's protege go that easily.

peebee2 · 19 Jul 2018, 22:03 (Ref:3837604)

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Originally Posted by Nononsensecapeesh

In place of...

Perez who will leave for Haas most likely.

peebee2 · 19 Jul 2018, 22:05 (Ref:3837607)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

The trouble is, Stroll and Sirotkin are integral parts of Williams' current 'plan', aren't they......? So I don't think anyone can be chastised for criticising that element of the 'plan'......

Exactly - that’s the plan. And very shortsighted it was too.

F1Guy · 20 Jul 2018, 08:15 (Ref:3837644)

To clarify a bit more, rumour suggests Stroll Snr is interested in a share of Force India. And as part of the deal, Stroll Jnr is in one of the seats.

Perez is rumoured to be heading to Haas for 2019.

Only rumours though at this stage.

S griffin · 20 Jul 2018, 08:42 (Ref:3837648)

The fact Bottas is now confirmed for 2019, means I doubt Ocon would be the one to make way for Stroll

**Aysedasi** · 20 Jul 2018, 16:57 (Ref:3837701)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

The fact Bottas is now confirmed for 2019, means I doubt Ocon would be the one to make way for Stroll

It would make zero sense......

Moneyseeker · 20 Jul 2018, 19:10 (Ref:3837720)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

It would make zero sense......

Ocon to Renault and Sains to McLaren is the rumour.....

Williams, it would be Sirotkin and the highest bidder, sadly.

PL's new front wing going well so far, I see....

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Mekola · 21 Jul 2018, 06:42 (Ref:3837783)

Well.

F1Guy · 26 Jul 2018, 08:21 (Ref:3838832)

If the rumours are correct, Williams are set to be the Mercedes 'B' team next season. This deal will include Mercedes suspension components, and a 2019 Mercedes gearbox, apparently.

This is a big move for Williams, who have always said, apart from the engine, the entire car will be built in-house. They have always fancied themselves as a constructor.

Will it pay off?

E.B · 26 Jul 2018, 11:01 (Ref:3838853)

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Originally Posted by F1Guy

If the rumours are correct, Williams are set to be the Mercedes 'B' team next season. This deal will include Mercedes suspension components, and a 2019 Mercedes gearbox, apparently.

This is a big move for Williams, who have always said, apart from the engine, the entire car will be built in-house. They have always fancied themselves as a constructor.

Sounds almost hypocritical for a team that at one time blackballed the whole concept of customer cars, which by definition is what reports such as this imply. I know time has passed and situations changed but it is a major about turn.
Will they now classify themselves as assemblers rather than constructors?

BSchneiderFan · 26 Jul 2018, 11:28 (Ref:3838857)

They’ll still be building the chassis. I believe Force India have much the same deal, without explicitly being a Stuttgart B team. Don’t see a problem; and if it helps Williams climb back up the field, I welcome it. Watching them at the moment is painful. Like watching a past-his-best prizefighter step back into the ring.

VIVA GT · 26 Jul 2018, 12:03 (Ref:3838864)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

They’ll still be building the chassis. I believe Force India have much the same deal, without explicitly being a Stuttgart B team. Don’t see a problem; and if it helps Williams climb back up the field, I welcome it. Watching them at the moment is painful. Like watching a past-his-best prizefighter step back into the ring.

I totally agree, I also find it sad to see the once great team floundering around at the back. It'll also hopefully give them a chance to dun more talented drivers, ones with bigger balls than wallets!

Moneyseeker · 26 Jul 2018, 12:34 (Ref:3838870)

I believe that Stroll snr has been trying to convince Williams to buy in some technology. Makes perfect sense to buy the gearbox that is designed to go with the Mercedes engine and no doubt developed and tested on a much bigger budget. Otherwise you are simply spending budget, replicating something that is out there already. Would the Williams of today, design and build a better gearbox than Mercedes?

peebee2 · 26 Jul 2018, 13:09 (Ref:3838881)

The Williams gearbox is decades out of date.

BSchneiderFan · 26 Jul 2018, 18:46 (Ref:3838935)

Interesting interview in today’s Times with Claire Williams. She says she hopes Nate one day runs the team. I just hope Williams is still going by then. At least she’s not hiding the deep hole that they’re in.

Alfaholic · 26 Jul 2018, 21:14 (Ref:3838953)

And HERE is another interview with an insight from Claire about the pressures of running the team

wnut · 27 Jul 2018, 06:58 (Ref:3839031)

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Originally Posted by Alfaholic

And HERE is another interview with an insight from Claire about the pressures of running the team

Albanian mafia family, perhaps.

BSchneiderFan · 27 Jul 2018, 19:13 (Ref:3839176)

Almost too close to the truth to be funny.

It’s sad, it really is. I know nothing lasts forever, and Williams have no pre-ordained entitlement to run at the front, but I grew up watching Formula 1 in the late 80s and early 90s, when they were dominant. To see them (and McLaren) tugging around towards the back is painful, as it must have been for the generation who grew up on Lotus and Brabham and had to watch them crawl towards their slow deaths.

TrapezeArtist · 27 Jul 2018, 21:16 (Ref:3839188)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Almost too close to the truth to be funny.

It’s sad, it really is. I know nothing lasts forever, and Williams have no pre-ordained entitlement to run at the front, but I grew up watching Formula 1 in the late 80s and early 90s, when they were dominant. To see them (and McLaren) tugging around towards the back is painful, as it must have been for the generation who grew up on Lotus and Brabham and had to watch them crawl towards their slow deaths.

Actually I grew up on Lotus and BRM, and it was really sad to see it all go down the tubes, especially as I went on to work for Lotus (Cars) in the heyday of the 79. It was also sad to see the end of Tyrell. And now it's sad to see McLaren and Williams as shadows of their former selves. However Williams at least has been there before (about 1977/8?) and managed to pull themselves up to a position of dominance. Who know! Go for it Claire!

**GTRMagic** · 28 Jul 2018, 13:06 (Ref:3839300)

Claire Williams To Go?

S griffin · 28 Jul 2018, 15:15 (Ref:3839342)

I hope Williams don’t turn out like Lotus, unable to survive without it’s founding member

chillibowl · 28 Jul 2018, 17:13 (Ref:3839406)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Claire Williams To Go?

i see the article has an all too typical quote from Jacques Villeneuve stirring the pot.

of course entitled to his opinion, to some degree he has earned his right to say what he thinks, and i dont always disagree with him...but he really is one of the worst pundits out there these days.

appreciate the sharing of the link of course and like the source site...just more of a side rant about JV on my part.

S griffin · 28 Jul 2018, 17:26 (Ref:3839417)

These days you need to take Jacques with a pince of salt. Let’s just say sometimes I agree with, sometimes I do not

BSchneiderFan · 28 Jul 2018, 20:00 (Ref:3839570)

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Originally Posted by chillibowl

i see the article has an all too typical quote from Jacques Villeneuve stirring the pot.

of course entitled to his opinion, to some degree he has earned his right to say what he thinks, and i dont always disagree with him...but he really is one of the worst pundits out there these days.

appreciate the sharing of the link of course and like the source site...just more of a side rant about JV on my part.

Couldn’t agree more. He likes shooting his mouth off and is at risk of becoming a professional controversialist. A bit like Niki Lauda, without the weight Niki carries as Chairman of Mercedes-AMG.

Mike Harte · 28 Jul 2018, 20:05 (Ref:3839575)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

Couldn’t agree more. He likes shooting his mouth off and is at risk of becoming a professional controversialist. A bit like Niki Lauda, without the weight Niki carries as Chairman of Mercedes-AMG.

JV has just taken over from Eddie Irvine as the go-to rent-a-quote.

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