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Old 27 Aug 2018, 11:18 (Ref:3846504)   #151
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 11:51 (Ref:3846509)   #152
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I'm not sure I even mentioned South Auckland. Maybe it's you that's making that comparison. All I'm saying is if your reason for not supporting a driver is they had a privileged upbringing then you begin to run out of drivers to support pretty quickly. I'll head back to the asylum now. Only the underprivileged F1 drivers, who grew up homeless on the streets of Detroit are allowed in the asylum.
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 12:59 (Ref:3846520)   #153
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I'm not sure I even mentioned South Auckland. Maybe it's you that's making that comparison. All I'm saying is if your reason for not supporting a driver is they had a privileged upbringing then you begin to run out of drivers to support pretty quickly. I'll head back to the asylum now. Only the underprivileged F1 drivers, who grew up homeless on the streets of Detroit are allowed in the asylum.
Hey now, Detroit was privileged upbringing for a while sir. Ok, maybe not so much now.
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 13:03 (Ref:3846521)   #154
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Leclerc's family may be wealthy, but that's no different to the majority of drivers on the grid. Most get a start in motorsport through having money, or parents already in the sport. There is a bit of an irony in refusing to support Leclerc due to his privileged upbringing, whilst having the username Dixon, who is, of course, the son of two racing drivers who enabled him to get dispensation to race at a younger age than would've been allowed. Many others wouldn't have had the start in life Scott had.

Whenever you look at any racing driver, there's usually a bit of privilege somewhere down the line. That's the nature of such an expensive sport.
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if you're going to consider being born to speedway parents and growing up in that noted south auckland mansion suburb Manurewa as equal to growing up in monaco then good on you
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you made a terrible point to compare south auckland to monaco, keep reaching

if i'd known not supporting some rich kid would create so much melodrama i'd also have revealed i cbf supporting stroll, but that seems ok around here for whatever reason. geez i thought not having a preference either way in the hamilton v vettel debate would insulate me somewhat from the asylum escapees.

from now on i pinky promise to cheer on every driver equally, especially if they're young and hyped.
Nope, I'm thinking you have a terrible memory or a hella chip on your shoulder. You're the only person who mentioned where he was from specifically. Believe his point was valid that he was born in to racing and was afforded opportunities others may not have gotten.
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Old 27 Aug 2018, 13:08 (Ref:3846522)   #155
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Hey, I'm not judging! I spent a long time living in a place called Arbroath. It's just a wee town, but it's like living in Basra.

Edit: For the record, I'm not saying Dixon had a millionare upbringing. Just that his parents social position allowed him a start many others wouldn't have gotten. It's a different scale for sure, but it's the same idea. Unfortunately, most sports have this sort of story.
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Hey, I'm not judging! I spent a long time living in a place called Arbroath. It's just a wee town, but it's like living in Basra.
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Spent many a time digging a hole to avoid the locals.
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Old 29 Aug 2018, 17:52 (Ref:3846929)   #159
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Old 29 Aug 2018, 18:05 (Ref:3846933)   #160
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Markelov to Williams? https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...-williams-seat
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Old 29 Aug 2018, 19:34 (Ref:3846949)   #161
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I can think of a lot worse options, he’s more than eligible for a seat in F1. Don’t forget only Leclerc beat him in last season’s GP2 championship
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I can think of a lot worse options, he’s more than eligible for a seat in F1. Don’t forget only Leclerc beat him in last season’s GP2 championship
And he is eligible for a superlicence.
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And he is eligible for a superlicence.
... but 'incompatible' with Sirotkin and SMP ?
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... but 'incompatible' with Sirotkin and SMP ?
So Autosport say. Tent not big enough for two Russians?
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This is entirely understandable: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...-ocon-for-2019 If Renault have ambitions to be a real player, Ocon was never going to be much use to them. Fingers crossed he finds a competitive drive somewhere, if the Force India door is closed to him.
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I hope so too, be a massive waste of talent if he wasn't on the grid next season
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Now Kvyat is being touted for a return to Toro Rosso.
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This is entirely understandable: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...-ocon-for-2019 If Renault have ambitions to be a real player, Ocon was never going to be much use to them. Fingers crossed he finds a competitive drive somewhere, if the Force India door is closed to him.
More a case of Ocon's 'ownership' by Mercedes not being of much use to them....
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Now Kvyat is being touted for a return to Toro Rosso.
I personally don't rate Kvyat and I don't think many here do. So on the surface it sounds crazy.

But on his good days (when he is not crippled by his own mental games) Kvyat could be argued as being much better than Hartley. Also, might TR (and by extension RBR and Honda) glean some information from Kvyat about the Ferrari? Kvyat apparently does simulator work for Ferrari and should know the operational details of things like special modes (hybrid, qualifying, etc.) I could see a one year deal to get them through 2019 with an option for 2020 if he surprises.

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Not me, Autosport.
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Hmm, I guess they got it from somewhere - but I still feel that Dann(y)(il) has long had his day in F1....
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On what basis??? Quicker than Vettel and Verstappen is quite some boast.
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I personally don't rate Kvyat and I don't think many here do. So on the surface it sounds crazy.

But on his good days (when he is not crippled by his own mental games) Kvyat could be argued as being much better than Hartley. Also, might TR (and by extension RBR and Honda) glean some information from Kvyat about the Ferrari? Kvyat apparently does simulator work for Ferrari and should know the operational details of things like special modes (hybrid, qualifying, etc.) I could see a one year deal to get them through 2019 with an option for 2020 if he surprises.

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Fair point, but Vergne was far quicker than Kvyat.

Buemi and Alguersuari were probably about equal.
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