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Old 9 Oct 2010, 16:16 (Ref:2772032)   #151
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Is the car racing tomorrow?
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 16:34 (Ref:2772042)   #152
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No, but it will be given a demo run.
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 16:35 (Ref:2772044)   #153
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 16:56 (Ref:2772056)   #154
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It looks rather nice.
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 16:59 (Ref:2772058)   #155
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Looks a bit chunky from the front, looks very nice from the back! Overall, looks nice and solid, and its a saloon too, which is important
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 18:37 (Ref:2772104)   #156
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The 'stealth look' as Alan Gow referred to it over the PA made it difficult to see the detail, even so, I thought it looked quite good.
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 20:00 (Ref:2772135)   #157
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But of course we don't know how much power it has.
I would imagine it has the same rev limits as the Vauxhalls running the Toca engine.
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 21:39 (Ref:2772187)   #158
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One would also presume that it was being looked after today to ensure an outing was possible tomorrow in front of the anticipated mega crowd!
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Old 9 Oct 2010, 21:43 (Ref:2772188)   #159
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Looked like an tug, sounded like a truck
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Old 10 Oct 2010, 01:18 (Ref:2772248)   #160
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Video footage at all?
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Old 13 Oct 2010, 21:25 (Ref:2774565)   #161
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Guys & girls.

I've split the thread now to seperate the BTCC and STCC sides of the NGTC discussion.

Keep posting here for BTCC issues, but for the STCC NGTC points can all future posts be in the following thread. Thanks
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125130
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Old 5 Nov 2010, 21:07 (Ref:2785554)   #162
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Imagine if Volvo had joined the BTCC as they were rumored to. Are we really sure we'd want the NGTC engines after having had a season listening to this.
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Yep, it would be a real shame if that 5 cylinder never sang again...
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Imagine if Volvo had joined the BTCC as they were rumored to. Are we really sure we'd want the NGTC engines after having had a season listening to this.
NGTC engines don't have to be built by Swindon, a manufacturer can take any 2 litre engine out of their current range and put it in.

Unless I have missed something here...
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Unless I have missed something here...
You are right that an NGTC-spec engine doesn't have to be built by Swindon. What you are missing is that Volvo's NA 5-cylinder unit has a very distinctive engine note and that's something no turbo engine is ever going to replicate no matter who builds it.
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Old 6 Nov 2010, 19:25 (Ref:2785954)   #166
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You are right that an NGTC-spec engine doesn't have to be built by Swindon. What you are missing is that Volvo's NA 5-cylinder unit has a very distinctive engine note and that's something no turbo engine is ever going to replicate no matter who builds it.
And watching that Volvo racing at Okayama, the engine sounded like a mini Lamborghini SV-R GT1. Pure epicness.
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Old 7 Nov 2010, 00:17 (Ref:2786069)   #167
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Imagine if Volvo had joined the BTCC as they were rumored to. Are we really sure we'd want the NGTC engines after having had a season listening to this.
That video proves to me how I prefer induction noise over exhaust note. Sooooo much like the Super Tourers.
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You are right that an NGTC-spec engine doesn't have to be built by Swindon. What you are missing is that Volvo's NA 5-cylinder unit has a very distinctive engine note and that's something no turbo engine is ever going to replicate no matter who builds it.

Oh, I don't know. the original quattro engine was a 5 cylinder turbo & sounded pretty distinctive. And if I remember rightly the Volvo engine is based on the Audi architecture, which Volvo bought some time ago.
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Old 8 Nov 2010, 20:14 (Ref:2787219)   #169
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Well I was lucky enough to see [hear] them in the flesh when they came to Brands as wildcards on the WTCC and they were even better than that vid. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they were the nicest sounding touring cars I'd ever heard... and I've been watching touring car racing since the late 1970s !
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