Peugeot 2010-2011 (Temporarily Closed) - Page 7

CTD · 17 Dec 2009, 13:49 (Ref:2601306)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Well, the AutoHebdo article reckons the livery will be same as for the petrol car. Just have to wait for an official announcement.

Or maybe they'll do the Audi R8 look?.

Tom908V12 · 17 Dec 2009, 14:15 (Ref:2601322)

On the ORECA blog( http://www.oreca-channel.com/ )they write there will be a PARTNERSHIP between ORECA and Peugeot in the engine racing department for 2011

But what happens to the AIM deal then

Stunning news that Oreca won't rent the 908 only but longer term partnership

**Bentley03** · 17 Dec 2009, 14:32 (Ref:2601329)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

On the ORECA blog( http://www.oreca-channel.com/ )they write there will be a PARTNERSHIP between ORECA and Peugeot in the engine racing department for 2011

Stunning news that Oreca won't rent the 908 only but longer term partnership

Wow, that's massive news..........thanks for the link!

Tom908V12 · 17 Dec 2009, 14:35 (Ref:2601330)

In fact there will be a Peugeot engine will take place in the Oreca02 that will run the 2011 endurance season !!!

The Badger · 17 Dec 2009, 14:43 (Ref:2601333)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

I suspect Nicolas Lapierre might get the nod ahead of Ortelli (unless they are using 3 drivers). At Le Mans, who knows..........

Is Ortelli slightly out of flavor ?

One thing is for sure , all 3 of them will be super quick .

Now we need Audi to supply a petrol TFSI engine for a customer .

CTD · 17 Dec 2009, 15:05 (Ref:2601343)

http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/news...ca-matmut.html
Confirmation from Peugeot, both on the 908 in 2010, and the possibility for Peugeot Engines in Oreca 02 for 2011!.
Does this mean a Peugeot Diesel or Petrol?, and what about the hybrid?

dxk1 · 17 Dec 2009, 15:05 (Ref:2601344)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

On a positive note, the Oreca liveried car will look absolutely stunning!!

Agreed, but I still think one in Red Bull Livery would look even better!

DK

CTD · 17 Dec 2009, 15:13 (Ref:2601347)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

Agreed, but I still think one in Red Bull Livery would look even better!

DK

Well there is still room for a "Peugeot Red Bull Sport 908", of the 3, Peugeot is entering themselves?

Acid09 · 17 Dec 2009, 15:41 (Ref:2601363)

Good news but I´m kind of worried about that engine deal. Could that mean that Peugeot is thinking about not building a new car but act as engine supplier for ORECA only?

Sounds kind of weird to supply engines to a competitor when you´re entering a new car yourself.

JHamilton · 17 Dec 2009, 15:44 (Ref:2601366)

Does anyone else find this news extremely disappointing? Yet another competent chassis manufacturer that cannot compete with the diesels puts their tail between their legs and contracts to drive one. When will we get rid of the diesels or have proper performance balancing? After Peugeot leaves?

HORNDAWG · 17 Dec 2009, 16:41 (Ref:2601388)

I do not see this as being good news! There is greater potential for a net loss in this scenario than there is for a gain. As others have said, it bodes of a future loss in part,or of, one of the programs!

L.P.

Dani Filth · 17 Dec 2009, 16:57 (Ref:2601392)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

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On a positive note, the Oreca liveried car will look absolutely stunning!!

and that reason alone might make the Oreca Pug the #1 pug to cheer next year

carsten66 · 17 Dec 2009, 17:22 (Ref:2601413)

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Originally Posted by CTD

http://www.peugeot-sport.com/en/news...ca-matmut.html
Confirmation from Peugeot, both on the 908 in 2010, and the possibility for Peugeot Engines in Oreca 02 for 2011!.
Does this mean a Peugeot Diesel or Petrol?, and what about the hybrid?

Now also confirmed by Oreca... and Oreca said that they will use the car also at some races of the LMS.

And for 2011 I think for shure it will be a diesel engine.

Acid09 · 17 Dec 2009, 17:28 (Ref:2601422)

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Peugeot already hinted that their new car might not be a Diesel afterall.

Let's hope their will be a new car to begin with...

**Aysedasi** · 17 Dec 2009, 17:36 (Ref:2601427)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

The car obviously requires open-wheel experience to be driven really on the limit, it's not a conincidence that all drivers on the Peugeot squad have driven F1 or other high-profile single seaters before.

I'm not sure I'm entirely with you on that observation.

(Come back Jim Roller, all is forgiven........

)

carsten66 · 17 Dec 2009, 17:46 (Ref:2601435)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Peugeot already hinted that their new car might not be a Diesel afterall.

Let's hope their will be a new car to begin with...

That's a point but Peugeot is refering to their own cars... and what I understand the engines for Oreca will be customer engines and therefore probably Oreca will get the approved diesel engines.

zac510 · 17 Dec 2009, 17:47 (Ref:2601436)

Interesting news, I wonder why Peugeot chose Oreca over their long-standing partnership with Pescarolo? Both privateer teams are very good as we know.

Maybe Oreca just has a stronger future base (ie finances) than Pesca.

HORNDAWG · 17 Dec 2009, 17:58 (Ref:2601448)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

That's a point but Peugeot is refering to their own cars... and what I understand the engines for Oreca will be customer engines and therefore probably Oreca will get the approved diesel engines.

Hmm, Peugeot going to petrol engines in their own cars, and selling diesels that could beat them? I doubt that very seriously!!
As a customer of Peugeot you would always get a #2 engine. Why would another constructor (Oreca) always want to be in the shadow of Peugeot? Does not make good business sense to me.
Something does not smell right here.

L.P.

CTD · 17 Dec 2009, 18:05 (Ref:2601455)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Hmm, Peugeot going to petrol engines in their own cars, and selling diesels that could beat them? I doubt that very seriously!!
As a customer of Peugeot you would always get a #2 engine. Why would another constructor (Oreca) always want to be in the shadow of Peugeot? Does not make good business sense to me.
Something does not smell right here.
L.P.

If the #2 engine is better than the other privateers, and gives them a fighting chance against Audi/Porsche?

Tom908V12 · 17 Dec 2009, 18:12 (Ref:2601466)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Peugeot already hinted that their new car might not be a Diesel afterall.

Let's hope their will be a new car to begin with...

What I understood from Quesnel himself(me thinks from an AutoHebdo mag)was 2011 a V8 HDI engine again, then from 2012 a gazoline one(possibly hybrid)

CTD · 17 Dec 2009, 18:14 (Ref:2601467)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

What I understood from Quesnel himself(me thinks from an AutoHebdo mag)was 2011 a V8 HDI engine again, then from 2012 a gazoline one(possibly hybrid)

No way they will develop a new engine for 1 year!
At least a 2 year program for an engine, anything under is just waste of money.

Acid09 · 17 Dec 2009, 18:33 (Ref:2601482)

Even two years is a little short, that doesn't really justify developing a whole new engine.

This does not add up and I´m afraid this might be a hint that Peugeot is considering to scale their programme back to being an engine supplier.

HORNDAWG · 17 Dec 2009, 18:37 (Ref:2601490)

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Originally Posted by CTD

If the #2 engine is better than the other privateers, and gives them a fighting chance against Audi/Porsche?

If it is a #2 engine, it will not have a chance against any other full works programs! Otherwise it would be competing against Peugeot, and that will not happen.

L.P.

CTD · 17 Dec 2009, 19:21 (Ref:2601508)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

If it is a #2 engine, it will not have a chance against any other full works programs! Otherwise it would be competing against Peugeot, and that will not happen.
L.P.

The Peugeot V12 HDI, is said to be miles better than the Audi V12 and V10!.
So if they made small upgrades to it (if that is possible), and developed a even better V8 or V10 for themselves, then i think the V12 still would give Audi a fair race (the question for me is, if ORECA can build a chassis which is competitive with Audi and Peugeot?. The attempt with Audi engine in a non-Audi Chassis, hasn't been good!, so why should Peugeot in ORECA)

HORNDAWG · 17 Dec 2009, 19:35 (Ref:2601518)

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Originally Posted by CTD

The Peugeot V12 HDI, is said to be miles better than the Audi V12 and V10!.
So if they made small upgrades to it (if that is possible), and developed a even better V8 or V10 for themselves, then i think the V12 still would give Audi a fair race (the question for me is, if ORECA can build a chassis which is competitive with Audi and Peugeot?. The attempt with Audi engine in a non-Audi Chassis, hasn't been good!, so why should Peugeot in ORECA)

You continue to reinforce my thought! Why wouild Oreca do this if they wish to promote the ability to produce a good and competitive chassis, for sale?

L.P.

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