2013 v8st

[flyingduck]

I heard there may be some changes in the last round results for both races.

[raymond]

Originally Posted by flyingduck

I heard there may be some changes in the last round results for both races.

That hearing is happening this weekend at Teretonga I believe, to do with the Edgell time penalty I understand

[isoskim]

Originally Posted by raymond

That hearing is happening this weekend at Teretonga I believe, to do with the Edgell time penalty I understand

It has already happened - http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...20Decision.pdf

[Goat Boy]

Well the calendars are very much a fluid thing it would seem, which is fine as long as you don't sell tickets to events too early (like the cancelled Ardmore Airshow...).

I think the TRS is very much its own show, and could be incorporated into an ST round next year if possible, but no bother if not as support classes should hopefully be able to be sourced locally, there may be some overlap.

This season, it will be interesting to see when the full merged NZV8/V8CC grid appears, and at what event. There may now be a number of NZV8 runners who want to compete at the announced ST rounds, under whatever banner they decide. Ultimately there will only be that platform for them anyway.

Will be interesting to see what happens now with the SC's though, it would be a good show if the full ST support was there for them, I have seen the prelim schedule for Round 1 and it's very very packed, which should keep people like me happy

But what will happen to the TLX's? Xtreme Sports GT... Then Inky can beef his engine up as much as he likes (though he probably still won't win anything)

[NZSTfan]

Originally Posted by isoskim

It has already happened - http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...20Decision.pdf

Reading that article gives me an ice-cream headache!

Mr this and Mr that, sounds like something from the 1920's

But i suppose thats the format they have to follow to keep everything above board and official

[flyingduck]

Originally Posted by isoskim

It has already happened - http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/d...20Decision.pdf

Interesting so we have a new race winner in race 2 then, you would have to look and see if the spin on Murphy by Mclaughlin was signed by Bowater if so then he wins the race if it was not then Edgell wins race 2.

Interesting to see the comments on Judges of Fact making decisions and of the actions of Mr Bowater.

[NZSTfan]

Interesting summation below of the merger....

http://www.speedcafe.co.nz/2013/01/1...mier-category/

[isoskim]

Originally Posted by flyingduck

Interesting so we have a new race winner in race 2 then, you would have to look and see if the spin on Murphy by Mclaughlin was signed by Bowater if so then he wins the race if it was not then Edgell wins race 2.

Interesting to see the comments on Judges of Fact making decisions and of the actions of Mr Bowater.

I guess we will find out in the coming hours or days who takes the race win. I don't follow you about the Judges making decisions, can you elaborate?

[flyingduck]

Originally Posted by isoskim

I guess we will find out in the coming hours or days who takes the race win. I don't follow you about the Judges making decisions, can you elaborate?

Recommendation 1 of the finding in the link you posted and was also stated that they had listed Adam Simmons as the Judge of Fact that had issued the penalty when it was not it was actually Ross Thurston the driving standard observer.

With the race results it should be pretty easy to figure out anything signed by Mr Bowater is out as he had no authority at the meeting according to the panel.

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Interesting summation below of the merger....

http://www.speedcafe.co.nz/2013/01/1...mier-category/

NZSTfan,

For the record, there is no merger of V8 Supertourers Limited and VEEGA/NZV8 Ltd.

The parties have merely agreed to file a joint notice of discontinuance of the previous litigation that existed between them.

AS part of the settlement agreement VEEGA/NZV8's has been granted the right to the name V8 Challenge cup, and further a V8ST category support contract, not dissimilar to what we have with UDC V8 UTES, and Suzuki Swift Sport Cup.

Mark Petch.
Managing Director,
V8 Supertourers Limited.

[flyingduck]

So would you be able to let us know the results of the 2 races at Ruapuna Mr Petch

[NZSTfan]

Thanks for the clarification Mark.

The way speedcafe has written that article does make it sound like a merger of some sort....i guess thats journalistic license.

Still though, the main thing is the sanctioning of the series IMO and you can just see it growing year by year

[Goat Boy]

Inky Tulloch, Martin Short and Haydn MacKenzie should buy the remaining 3 ST licences!

[nistfan]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

Inky Tulloch, Martin Short and Haydn MacKenzie should buy the remaining 3 ST licences!

As long as they dont want to use thier news cars as Trade ins. And after wasting all that dosh building them in the first place.

Can't see Inky being interested anyway, and would/do V8ST needc him. I think not

[Southern Man]

Originally Posted by flyingduck

So would you be able to let us know the results of the 2 races at Ruapuna Mr Petch

I guess a few sheets of paper and a box of pencils later we will know the results not only of this meeting but of the overall series/championship for that will all be changed now too.

[NZSTfan]

Did anyone hear or see the article on 3 news last night about whats happening with the ITM400 and the possible inclusion of SVG to the series?

I was in the car at the time so only got the tail end of it.

But what i heard suggested that the SuperTourers may be the support act for the ITM400(not this year obviously), and that SVG could be driving too.

To be honest i had heard rumours some time ago that Shane was looking at driving in the ST's, but didn't know that the media were informed as well.

Did anyone else see or hear this as i would like to get some clarification here??

[nistfan]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Did anyone hear or see the article on 3 news last night about whats happening with the ITM400 and the possible inclusion of SVG to the series?

I was in the car at the time so only got the tail end of it.

But what i heard suggested that the SuperTourers may be the support act for the ITM400(not this year obviously), and that SVG could be driving too.

To be honest i had heard rumours some time ago that Shane was looking at driving in the ST's, but didn't know that the media were informed as well.

Did anyone else see or hear this as i would like to get some clarification here??

That sounds like a great story. I see SVG is Drifting at Baypark next Weekend (January 19/20)

[adbutler]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Did anyone hear or see the article on 3 news last night about whats happening with the ITM400 and the possible inclusion of SVG to the series?

I was in the car at the time so only got the tail end of it.

But what i heard suggested that the SuperTourers may be the support act for the ITM400(not this year obviously), and that SVG could be driving too.

To be honest i had heard rumours some time ago that Shane was looking at driving in the ST's, but didn't know that the media were informed as well.

Did anyone else see or hear this as i would like to get some clarification here??

it's on tv3 ondemand. starts at about 34mins
http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/3News/Vide...f=3NewsHBanner

[adbutler]

sounds like the engine problems have been sorted.
http://www.speedcafe.co.nz/2013/01/1...o-engine-woes/

[raymond]

Originally Posted by adbutler

it's on tv3 ondemand. starts at about 34mins
http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/3News/Vide...f=3NewsHBanner

Again, not an entirely factual account by the media.
What is on the table is a recommendation from MSNZ to V8 Supercars that V8ST be part of the Supercar meeting at Pukekohe. This will not be at the exclusion of NZV8's.
The contract between MSNZ and V8 Supercars is yet to be signed. Just waiting for V8SC to get back to us

[raymond]

It would also be a bit premature to write off the TRX cars right now. They may have a future like any other class within the framework of NZ Championship or sanctioned classes. As the past has shown us, if a number of them turn up, most promoters will make room for them as the promoter/circuit owner wants numbers to pay the way.
Personally I think we have too many classes of racing in NZ, but if the sport decides to restructure and discard classes, how can it do that without threat of legal action etc. What the sport is doing is reviewing the whole strategic "pyramid thingy" as that is no longer relevant. The input from outside the Exec has been sought and will be helpful. What the sport needs to do is remember to try to include a "career path model" (whether it works or not is another whole discussion) and also be aware of the permanent venue requirements for survival at worst and success at best.

[nistfan]

Originally Posted by raymond

Again, not an entirely factual account by the media.
What is on the table is a recommendation from MSNZ to V8 Supercars that V8ST be part of the Supercar meeting at Pukekohe. This will not be at the exclusion of NZV8's.
The contract between MSNZ and V8 Supercars is yet to be signed. Just waiting for V8SC to get back to us

So are you saying that 90 days out from Race day the deal for V8SC to race at Pukekohe has not been signed?

[NZSTfan]

Thanks for the clarification raymond. I must say i was VERY surprised when i heard this story coming thru the radio yesterday evening, especially seeing as R1 of the summer series kicks off this weekend.

Thanks also for the link adbutler

[socram]

There may well be too many classes, but they don't all need their own individual grids. There was a time when even the grids at Mallory Park, limited to just 14 cars in the very early days, would be split into three classes and no one complained, least of all the spectators, as the grids were as full as possible with a list of up to 4 reserves for each race.

A motorsport career path has many options and that may well be starting in karts and heading along a single seater route all the way to Indy or even F1, (hopefully, Brendon Hartley, Mitch Evans, the Cunninghams etc.) or even Le Mans (Hartley again) or the tin top and GT route through to ST/Aussie V8s/Porsche Cup.

Many seem to switch from one to the other with comparative ease - Radisich, Murphy, Reid etc., but regardless of talent, seats at the top need very deep pockets.

Even classics have a clear path upwards, from Classic Trials and slower race groups through to the various faster classes.

[NZSTfan]

Thanks to adbutler i have now seen the article on Tv3. Seems like some of these rumours may be true (according to TV3), but i wait with baited breath about the whole ST being support class for this Aprils ITM400 thing being confirmed or not.

Crazy development for the series if this pans out