[WEC] New rules. New manufacturers. The 2021 and beyond positivity thread!

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by Adam43

I thought Colin had fallen out with the ACO?

Oh yes, I'd forgotten, although in fairness I was (literally) only two weeks old when that happened...

[Mike E]

Seems Ganassi moving away from Cadillac has set off another chain of events. WTR back to Cadillac and naughty Meyer Shank back to Acura?

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...r-hrc-usa.html

[TF110]

And still no Acura/Honda for the WEC. Looks like they just don't want to pony up anything extra. I think if someone wants a couple cars that'll be the only way we will see it in the wec.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Mike E

Seems Ganassi moving away from Cadillac has set off another chain of events. WTR back to Cadillac and naughty Meyer Shank back to Acura?

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...r-hrc-usa.html

It will be interesting to see who gets the WEC Caddy program. I'd say it is an easy way for Kolles to get his team on the grid

[KlBD]

Originally Posted by TF110

And still no Acura/Honda for the WEC. Looks like they just don't want to pony up anything extra. I think if someone wants a couple cars that'll be the only way we will see it in the wec.

I know this is the positivity thread but as I've been saying, all signs continue to point to no future customer LMDhs from anyone other than Porsche, and likely no ARXs in the WEC.

[flatlandsman]

I cannot see Acura, they are not marketed in the world other than America, so it would have to be a rebrand, would rather see an NSX in GT to be honest, I love that car.

Caddy and GM are going to be super busy and I would imagine once their F1 programmes starts the Hypercar will be cut anyway leaving the Corvette customer programme.

I can see BMW eventually doing customer cars, depends on the deal WRT have, they might not want this. I can see Rossi in one in the future maybe in a VR46 team, a bit like the yellow Ferrari.

[Ferrari333SP]

Aston Martin “On Target” With Valkyrie Development

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...e-development/

[TF110]

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...ing-liquid-h2/- hydrogen power coming into play again, but so far theres no regulations on it so it seems 2027 is too soon. Imo, they should save hydrogen for the next set of regulations for hypercars or whatever the class is called.

[veeten]

Look who else is making a return,...

an old friend, in the hydrogen runnings, no less...

https://www.sportscar365.com/lemans/...red-prototype/

[GT3_Fan]

Originally Posted by veeten

Look who else is making a return,...

an old friend, in the hydrogen runnings, no less...

https://www.sportscar365.com/lemans/...red-prototype/

Err It looks like a gen 1/2 Daytona Prototype

[Ferrari333SP]

Heart Of Racing To Run Second WEC Valkyrie In 2025

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...e-in-2025.html

[Coach Ep]

Grid increased from 37 to 40 cars to accommodate +2 AMs, +1 Lambo and +1 Caddy (all in HY). Will we see IF back in 2025?

[Aysedasi]

Are the LMP2s going to continue to run at LM beyond this year?

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Grid increased from 37 to 40 cars to accommodate +2 AMs, +1 Lambo and +1 Caddy (all in HY). Will we see IF back in 2025?

Good question, and will anybody take up the Jota Porsche slots?

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Are the LMP2s going to continue to run at LM beyond this year?

I think that was mentioned for at least 2025 when they announced no lmp2 in wec

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by joeb

I think that was mentioned for at least 2025 when they announced no lmp2 in wec

I too remember they've been talking about at least 15 places on the grid. May be beyond 2025.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by joeb

Good question, and will anybody take up the Jota Porsche slots?

All this time this discussion has been going I've (probably incorrectly) assumed that the JOTA 963s would go to Proton so the can have their 2 car entries (one in WEC, one in IMSA). Do we really need more than 4 Porsches on the grid? Not in my opinion.

[flatlandsman]

Deos anyone know the chassis and base tubs for the Hypercars.


I think Caddy and Ferrari use Dallara, presume Toyota and Porsche, Peugeot use their own, I think Porsche is UK made by the folks that did the Ford GT stuff, what about Alpine, oreca I guess? Vanwall? BMW is that Dallara?

[veeten]

LMH

Toyota - In-house built.

Ferrari - in house built, with assistance from Dallara.

Isotta Fraschini - designed in-house, manufactured by Michelotto, assembled by IF.

Peugeot - designed, manufactured, and assembled in-house by Peugeot.


LMDh

Porsche - chassis manufactured by MultiMatic.

BMW & Cadillac - chassis built by Dallara (no connection with Ferrari chassis).

Alpine & Acura(Honda) - chassis built by Oreca.

Lamborghini - chassis built by Ligier.

That's what's running this season. Add in Aston Martin for '25, which is designed and built in-house with assistance of MultiMatic.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by flatlandsman

Deos anyone know the chassis and base tubs for the Hypercars.


I think Caddy and Ferrari use Dallara, presume Toyota and Porsche, Peugeot use their own, I think Porsche is UK made by the folks that did the Ford GT stuff, what about Alpine, oreca I guess? Vanwall? BMW is that Dallara?

Toyota & I think Peugeot are in house


Isotta is done by Michelotto



Dallara does;
Ferrari
BMW
Caddy


Oreca;
Alpine
Acura/Honda


Ligier:
Lamborghini


Multimatic;
Porsche

[Matador]

Originally Posted by veeten

LMH

Toyota - In-house built.

Ferrari - in house built, with assistance from Dallara.

Isotta Fraschini - designed in-house, manufactured by Michelotto, assembled by IF.

Peugeot - designed, manufactured, and assembled in-house by Peugeot.


LMDh

Porsche - chassis manufactured by MultiMatic.

BMW & Cadillac - chassis built by Dallara (no connection with Ferrari chassis).

Alpine & Acura(Honda) - chassis built by Oreca.

Lamborghini - chassis built by Ligier.

That's what's running this season. Add in Aston Martin for '25, which is designed and built in-house with assistance of MultiMatic.

lol pipped on the last lap

[veeten]

Just call me Estre...

[tomcug]

Originally Posted by veeten

Ferrari - in house built, with assistance from Dallara.

Isotta Fraschini - designed in-house, manufactured by Michelotto, assembled by IF.

Pretty sure IF's chassis is designed by Michelotto. And from what I read the LMH chassis for Ferrari isn't as much unrelated to the LMDh one for BMW and Caddy as Ferrari would like it to be

[joeb]

Originally Posted by tomcug

Pretty sure IF's chassis is designed by Michelotto. And from what I read the LMH chassis for Ferrari isn't as much unrelated to the LMDh one for BMW and Caddy as Ferrari would like it to be

I would suggest the same on all the Dalaras. There are some very big similarities when you see parts of the tubs without bodywork

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by GT3_Fan

Err It looks like a gen 1/2 Daytona Prototype

Didn't know Solution F still exists.

[Simmi]

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/...4SyqKsIGrw_sxA

McLaren still flirting with hypercar without making a commitment of any sort.

That's the second time Brown has been quoted as saying it's "when not if." Feels like they've been linked for about a decade at this point!

Clearly not a priority for them compared to other series, but hopefully now they have representation in the WEC paddock it will start to help build the case for it internally.