The never ending Toyota return to Le Mans (LMP1) Saga - Page 72

CTD · 21 Feb 2012, 19:59 (Ref:3029088)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

A lot of beef towards Trulli. The guy used to be great over a lap in qualifying.

I don't think for a minute he will end up at Toyota but I'd like to see him get a ride at Le Mans somewhere. Then I think he will catch the endurance bug.

Only issue for him is I make it there are 8 seats in LMP1 remaining that haven't been announced. I'd say surely 75% of them are already taken. There about 2/3 seats in GT-Pro if that.

I like Trulli. I just dont see him in Endurance racing as he is a Pole Position driver, and a decent race driver. Not something you need in Endurance.

tyronnezx · 21 Feb 2012, 20:14 (Ref:3029096)

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Originally Posted by CTD

I like Trulli. I just dont see him in Endurance racing as he is a Pole Position driver, and a decent race driver. Not something you need in Endurance.

i dunno i may have a change of heart here, he might actually turn out to be good in an endurance racer. maybe toyota should put him in the simulator and see how he gets on

**Adam43** · 21 Feb 2012, 20:23 (Ref:3029101)

Well he did seem to go to sleep in the middle of an F1 race (cue joke). So it doesn't seem a natural fit for a tripple stint night shift. Maybe it would be different, I'd like to see if it is.

**joeb** · 21 Feb 2012, 20:40 (Ref:3029114)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Well he did seem to go to sleep in the middle of an F1 race (cue joke). So it doesn't seem a natural fit for a tripple stint night shift. Maybe it would be different, I'd like to see if it is.

Well if he got an LMP drive he would actually get to pass people, so maybe that would be more interesting to him!

vincegail · 21 Feb 2012, 22:17 (Ref:3029171)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Well if he got an LMP drive he would actually get to pass people, so maybe that would be more interesting to him!

Funny coz it's true!!!

TF110 · 21 Feb 2012, 23:06 (Ref:3029190)

His driving style with the famous 'Trulli train' mighyt be beneficial to them. He can be consistent and slow(er) yet still make it work with endurance type racing. We'll see where he ends up. But Toyota was like a 2nd home to him.

tyronnezx · 22 Feb 2012, 02:35 (Ref:3029243)

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Originally Posted by TF110

His driving style with the famous 'Trulli train' mighyt be beneficial to them. He can be consistent and slow(er) yet still make it work with endurance type racing. We'll see where he ends up. But Toyota was like a 2nd home to him.

you know what? i, for one would love to see Fernando Alonso in a TS030. that would bring a tear to my eye

**Adam43** · 22 Feb 2012, 06:21 (Ref:3029275)

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Originally Posted by vincegail

Funny coz it's true!!!

*reminds me of the Simpons*

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Originally Posted by TF110

His driving style with the famous 'Trulli train' mighyt be beneficial to them. He can be consistent and slow(er) yet still make it work with endurance type racing. We'll see where he ends up. But Toyota was like a 2nd home to him.

what about consistent and fast(er)?

TF110 · 22 Feb 2012, 08:38 (Ref:3029308)

Was Davidson a top driver in F1? He may have been fast but he never got his 'chance'. Trulli- while not the fastest guy out there- should be plenty quick for an LMP drive. He is pretty consistent. In the interview he said he wasn't finished with Toyota. He WANTS a Toyota drive. I think they'll contact him. He may prove his worth in prototypes. Lets see what Heidfeld can do this year.

gwyllion · 22 Feb 2012, 08:57 (Ref:3029321)

Mike Gascoyne said the following about Trulli's driving style:

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I've always said that Jarno's strength is also his biggest weakness. He's the most sensitive driver I've ever worked with. That's what ultimately gives him that extra couple of tenths that he's always had over his team-mates.

He has fantastic feel for the car, but take that away and he can't drive it. With someone like Fernando, the car can change and he just meatheads it.

source: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...51#post3028451

With that comment in mind, endurance racing might not suit Trulli because he has to share the car with 2 other drivers.

TF110 · 22 Feb 2012, 09:50 (Ref:3029333)

Maybe. But changing your style for a different series shouldn't be too big of a problem. He did test the Evora a while back and did some decent laps. He's not my favorite driver and I feel Toyota could have won races with someone other than him in F1. So if he doesn't get a drive with Toyota in WEC/LeMans it doesn't bother me. I'd rather Kobayashi!

deggis · 22 Feb 2012, 10:21 (Ref:3029351)

(Un)related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFc6NjlHXrY

Pandamasque · 22 Feb 2012, 19:37 (Ref:3029598)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

With that comment in mind, endurance racing might not suit Trulli because he has to share the car with 2 other drivers.

Sharing a car with someone doesn't imply the car automatically will becomes 'numb'. On the contrary, to me that comment means he'll be much more at home in something heavier and more progressive.

Octane · 23 Feb 2012, 04:12 (Ref:3029734)

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Originally Posted by TF110

He's not my favorite driver and I feel Toyota could have won races with someone other than him in F1. So if he doesn't get a drive with Toyota in WEC/LeMans it doesn't bother me. I'd rather Kobayashi!

Agree with you 100%

I'm not sure why there's so much 'Trulli' speculation going on tbh?!
But... As someone else stated on the last page, having an extra couple of tenths over your team mates is definitely not high on the importance list for most endurance teams and I doubt Trulli is much of a team driver anyways, and having to compromise the setup to suit 2 other drivers won't suit him at all.
Honestly, I think if he wan't to move back to Toyota, he should look at Formula Nippon or SGT. Having him on the grid would be a huge boost to either of those series!

Anyways... more TS030 news please!

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Originally Posted by deggis

(Un)related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFc6NjlHXrY

Private video??

TF110 · 23 Feb 2012, 10:10 (Ref:3029792)

Only news I've come across is Anthony Davidson headed to TMG today for simulator testing.

Félix · 23 Feb 2012, 17:51 (Ref:3029991)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Only news I've come across is Anthony Davidson headed to TMG today for simulator testing.

And Autosport reports the 30 hour test was conducted with hybrid power at the rear. Cue endless technical speculation and advanced explanations based on not much.

**FIRE** · 24 Feb 2012, 20:39 (Ref:3030576)

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Originally Posted by Octane

Private video??

Uploaded by ToyotaMotorsportGmbh...

gwyllion · 24 Feb 2012, 21:49 (Ref:3030605)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Uploaded by ToyotaMotorsportGmbh...

Yesterday the video did not work for me either. Youtube gave an error "private video". The problem seems to be fixed now...

deggis · 25 Feb 2012, 13:32 (Ref:3030879)

Buemi interview from the official channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fSYtaQJoo

Also short clips of the simulator (it's not that they're trying to hide it, considering this older video).

Rennen · 25 Feb 2012, 13:36 (Ref:3030880)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Was Davidson a top driver in F1? He may have been fast but he never got his 'chance'. Trulli- while not the fastest guy out there- should be plenty quick for an LMP drive. He is pretty consistent. In the interview he said he wasn't finished with Toyota. He WANTS a Toyota drive. I think they'll contact him. He may prove his worth in prototypes. Lets see what Heidfeld can do this year.

Quite true...I for one was bitterly disapointed Anthony never got offered a drive in a better car than that Minardi or the year old Aguri Hondas...He had certainly put in great performances for BAR Honda in 2004-6 Friday practice sessions...But only had that one chance in '04 Malaysia in a Honda V10 that expired on lap2!
Ross Brawn once said that...'3rd Driver Fridays produced 3 talents; Vettle, Kubica and Davidson!'

I believe Ant' has more than proven with his 100% Pole LMP1 Qualifying, and his fiesty but calculated race wins that he was well up for it...but I respect him (unlike me) for not being bitter about it!

Articus · 25 Feb 2012, 19:36 (Ref:3030987)

Are they really having TC problems? Or is it just that the car has that much torque with the hybrid and new engine combined? Every video i have seen shows the car getting loose on the power.

Acid09 · 25 Feb 2012, 22:29 (Ref:3031108)

The hybrid can't be a factor in slow corners as it's not even allowed to kick in before 120kph. So it looks like TC calibration issues.

Victor_RO · 25 Feb 2012, 22:31 (Ref:3031109)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

The hybrid can't be a factor in slow corners as it's not even allowed to kick in before 120kph. So it looks like TC calibration issues.

Depends. It's limited to over 120kph only if it powers the front axle, there is no lower speed bound if the KERS powers the rear wheels alongside the engine.

Articus · 26 Feb 2012, 01:49 (Ref:3031209)

There is no limit when applied to the rear wheels. from any speed.

TF110 · 26 Feb 2012, 03:57 (Ref:3031267)

Yeah, it's instant torque and probably a good 50-100+hp depending on how long they use the 500kj of power. It's still just their 2nd test though. So once they get on with the next test in a month, I would guess they'll have this upgrading along with their updated package as well.

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