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I think it is NASCAR that has to worry about being relevant and 'eco-friendly' and not SRO, ACO, and IMSA.
David Phillips on CNN reporter and driver Jeff Burton: "To hear the reporter or her interview with Jeff Burton, NASCAR is boldly going where no race series has gone before [using unleaded fuel instead of leaded fuel], is so environmentally sensitive as to make the Sierra Club and Greenpeace look like fronts for the “wise use” movement." - http://www.speedtv.com/commentary/35575/ NASCAR finally uses unleaded fuel: http://www.the-paddock.net/motorspor...iew/241149/91/ |
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I do agree on the fact that mankind is poluting this planet,but what annoyes me is the fact that people stare themselves blind on CO2.
For instance,CFK's were(are) a very agressive gas for the ozon layer. The use of which is now brought back so far that the ozon layer is recovering. The same accounts for the use of stuff like DDT,back in the late 60's early 70's,which was also banned quite effectively. As sad by Davemk7,the efforts made by racing teams will be pushed aside for environmentally friendly racecars simply don't fit into the plans of this huge CO2 lobby. "Racingcars are bad anyhow" is what they'll say. It's quite obvious that these people will not be stopped by dry facts,they want heads rolling... |
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Read more, and not just the parts you want to read. I will not give a link, I am not a library, search or go to a real library and read science journals, which the drive-by media is loath to do. One kudo to NPR, it was there I heard the article mentioned about the ozone and global warming. Bob |
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If you don't mind,I stay at home and check out all kind of internetsites. Out here in the city were I live,there's a big university which has a pretty good librarysite Imho,one can allways read more.
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In response to the critics of the TV program shown in the UK that debunked the global warming champions, here is the a statment from the film maker.
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The problem in the UK at least is that the entire Gov budget is now dependent on squeezing more tax from us based on the warming theory. With the revene falling from tabacco sales it needs to be replaced as I heard someone suggest the other day, and what better, than a tax on fuel under the cover of eco ness. |
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Good stuff Nordic.
I would think that anytime the brits can rally against the Government to lower taxes is more important then any GW issues. If and when Governments TAX their citizens to death, then GW is the least of that governments worries. Cival wars have started for less. |
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but people ARE losing interest and are beggining to question, does going green mean having to pay £3 a mile to drive in our cars?, trains and buses are already terribly overcrowded so how the hell are they going to cope with another 10 million from cars into trains and buses and possibly more?. as well do the government honestly think that road pricing is an option?, its just using the old excuse of "being green, reducing carbon emissions, ooga booga", and as well what the hell do tony blair, gordon brown and that disgusting oaff of a man john prescott know about global warming and climate change. the answer my friends is NOTHING. the government got the message when 2 million people protested the road pricing bill, imo just another way of crapping on the working class in this country and helping the so called less fortunate, yeah i want to see my taxes paying for junkies to have shopping vouchers, free car's and free drugs to satisfy their needs. SO WHAT THE HELL ABOUT MY NEEDS AND GOOD PEOPLES NEEDS!!!!! rant over phew |
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I've tried to keep out of political arguments since they can often be nasty. DJ choc ice - I agree 100%.
I can only speak for the UK but all too often it seems, or at least the impression I get, is that the government takes genuine issues and simply spins them around in yet another plot to take money off us all. There is very little that they appear to take seriously besides their own bank balances. If people really need to use a road then they will do so weather it costs money or not. Charging to use a road isn't going to stop anyone from making their journeys, it'll just anger people a little more instead, whilst the government starts smiling when their pay cheque gets even bigger. |
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They just showed Algore babbling asinine BS on Headline News, and they call that news.
The "Earth has a fever", and Algore has dung for brains. There is a saying about the blind leading the blind, in this case it is the morons leading the fools. Bob |
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Ok let us lok at our historical stories as well
before we doom motorsports. In the 70's the world was going to cool and a big ice age was coming...then deforestation was to blame for rising grennhouse gasses- 80's 90-00's it appears the car and emissions are the new culprit in this. early racers ran alcohol, methanol, benzene, Nitro whatever to go fast and did so. the alcohols really aren't a problem i think environmentally, and we can adapt technology to make it work well "bio diesels" are another option for stuff like this. no one person has a handle on any of this global warming stuff. is it part of the cycle? or is it really man made chaos? how accurate were our methods for recording data within the last couple of centuries anyway? well we can go hybrid...but batteries are in the long term worse than regular fuels.... why not compressed air tank piston motors? and at pit stops we fill up the air tank-all from an electric pump. genious! we get the roar of the motor and the enviromental goodness- and no fires (some french company i believe has developed this tech quite well and our into production for short term driving and municipal vehicles) they get about 200klicks a tank of air and you'd never hear the difference of this and a gas motor... |
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Well done gttouring you have read the question that this thread posed and made some real suggestions instead of the political bickering that has been going on.
Does anyone know anything more about this type of technology, or have other suggestions to make? Sportscar racing as a test bed is where we should look to be, at least some of the time |
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Toyota have stopped selling sports cars in Britain, no new MR2 or celica's are being sold as part of a ECO image branding. Strange that the huge Amazon 4WD is still available but it points the direction car firms are going to take.
While on Holiday I came across a leaflet for the Eden Project. They are currently having what they call a 'Sexy Green Motor show'. As part of that show there is a Lola P1 car on display, the team behind it are called D1 oils. Not sure if its ever going to race, but its good to see the so called Greens embracing motorsport. http://www.edenproject.com/files/SGCS_programme.pdf |
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And the hypocrisy churns on--in todays newspaper there is an article about what someone here mentioned in one of these threads--turning used frying oil into "bio" diesel fuel.
As the article went on the negatives mainly were that the "subsidies" were less for turning pre-existing oil into fuel, than using green products (from farm land that used to be used for feeding people and animals). The farm spokesman said they had tried turning fat into fuel and it was not as easy as growing it and converting it--but the "fat" his word, he spoke of was chicken fat, which is a different animal from veggy oil. His bottom line was the "subsidy" was not as high, reducing "PROFITS". (the sub. for green is 1.00: for used cooking oil--.50) Of course these so called profits are tax payers money being used to pay people to grow something for a hair-brained gov. scheme; meanwhile, more and more articles are being written about how "bio fuels" (to use a term the ignorant love so well) are causing the price of foods, and feed vital to farmers, to increase drastically. Some cattle farmers are reducing or totally selling herds as they cannot afford to feed them. Here iin Minn. they are speaking of farmers planting 100 percent Corn, for the "bio" BS. Let's see that French lady said "let them eat cake", I guess here the cry must be--"let them eat corn meal, or go hungry"! Bob |
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Ohhhhh the Smell of High Octane race fuel Exhuast from these engines, plus the smell of burnt rubber, brake dust, HEAT coming of the engines and brakes, the flow of testosterone and adrenline in the race paddock. That is the ULTIMATE RUSH. Then you strap into the drivers seat and take the grid for the GREEN FLAG, installation lap, back the grid, rev the motor up to 2200 rpms, for the standing starts, GLEEN FLAG DROPS, Clutch pops out rear tires splin and OFF goes the race. Ohhh Damn there is nothing like it. No wonder my wife no longer comes to my events. a Crack Cocain habbit would be cheaper |
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