BTCC BTCC 2019 - Brands Hatch Indy - Rounds 1, 2, 3 - Page 8

CarfanLUFC · 7 Apr 2019, 16:38 (Ref:3895988)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

Disgusted to see Neal carry on around the track with collapsed rear suspension but Sutton gets pulled for a bit of loose bodywork.

I hope Neal gets penalised for carrying on with a car in a dangerous condition.

It was the last lap, what they are going to do, wave the black and orange flag and tell him to come into the pits on the warm down lap.....?

Sound like a bit of a Neal hater to be honest, I think every driver would have tried to finish if a top 10 was on offer on the last lap with a damaged car.

porsche962fan · 7 Apr 2019, 16:44 (Ref:3895989)

Jelley is actually 3rd in the standings...

Turkington outsoide the top 10 but that will quickly change

will be interesting to see the new 3 series at Thruxton

Akrapovic · 7 Apr 2019, 16:48 (Ref:3895992)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

Disgusted to see Neal carry on around the track with collapsed rear suspension but Sutton gets pulled for a bit of loose bodywork.

I hope Neal gets penalised for carrying on with a car in a dangerous condition.

lol.

mark_l · 7 Apr 2019, 16:48 (Ref:3895993)

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Originally Posted by CarfanLUFC

It was the last lap, what they are going to do, wave the black and orange flag and tell him to come into the pits on the warm down lap.....?

Sound like a bit of a Neal hater to be honest, I think every driver would have tried to finish if a top 10 was on offer on the last lap with a damaged car.

He passed the pit entrance when he knew he had a serious problem, he should of pitted.

Akrapovic · 7 Apr 2019, 16:49 (Ref:3895994)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

He passed the pit entrance when he knew he had a serious problem, he should of pitted.

So should've Sutton, but he continued on for several laps until he was flagged.

Come on man, lol.

swooshiain · 7 Apr 2019, 16:52 (Ref:3895996)

I don't believe any driver would have pitted under those circumstances.

SnoodyMcFlude · 7 Apr 2019, 16:54 (Ref:3895997)

Yeah I'm no fan of Matt Neal, quite the opposite, but nothing wrong with what he did there.

pimmy · 7 Apr 2019, 16:54 (Ref:3895998)

Neal's complaining about Chilton's move on him. Hypocrite.

MagicBoy · 7 Apr 2019, 16:58 (Ref:3895999)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

Disgusted to see Neal carry on around the track with collapsed rear suspension but Sutton gets pulled for a bit of loose bodywork.

I hope Neal gets penalised for carrying on with a car in a dangerous condition.

Calm down. It was the last lap. Neal was quite within his rights to carry on, and didn't do anything wrong.

SnoodyMcFlude · 7 Apr 2019, 17:06 (Ref:3896001)

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Originally Posted by pimmy

Neal's complaining about Chilton's move on him. Hypocrite.

We all knew that was coming though. They're all the same, Neal, Plato, Jordan etc. etc. They all throw moves up the inside but ***** like crazy when it happens to them.

Alfisti · 7 Apr 2019, 17:38 (Ref:3896006)

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Originally Posted by Mark0994

If i am not wrong, that would be Tom Ingram in 2017 in new Avensis.

Before that it was Shedden in 2015 with new Civic

The Avensis was not a new car - it was a new build of a proven design. Don't think I mafe my question clear, sorry about that! Probably right about Sheds, much more recent than I thought... but long enough ago I can't remember! Who won R1 today?

Alfisti · 7 Apr 2019, 17:41 (Ref:3896007)

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Originally Posted by pimmy

Neal's complaining about Chilton's move on him. Hypocrite.

I actually had some respect for Matt dragging the car back to the flag. Although the rational side of my head thinks he endangered safety so should have stopped. To moan about Tom, who "did a Matt Neal" he's lost any respect I had for him. Unlike Matt has in the past, Tom didn't cripple the car he bumped.

Alfisti · 7 Apr 2019, 17:43 (Ref:3896008)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

If you are talking about new chassis rather than new model, then you need to go all the way back to today's first race. Josh Cook's Civic is a brand new car.

I was meaning new model but didn't make it clear. Certainly right on the Cookie front on that basis.

Alfisti · 7 Apr 2019, 17:48 (Ref:3896009)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

By the way, for those that may have missed it, David Allison mentioned during Race 2 that the Dynamics cars have been permitted by KwikFit to display Dunlop plates on their cars given the obvious conflict with their own sponsor, Halfords.

Yeah, I heard that... kudos on KwikFit

Neither are getting my business at their prices mind. I've got way too much Yorkshire in me!

Alfisti · 7 Apr 2019, 17:50 (Ref:3896010)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

Disgusted to see Neal carry on around the track with collapsed rear suspension but Sutton gets pulled for a bit of loose bodywork.

I hope Neal gets penalised for carrying on with a car in a dangerous condition.

Have to agree wholeheartedly. That wheel/ hub could have broken away and seriously injured someone. Should have stopped out on track.

redshoes · 7 Apr 2019, 18:01 (Ref:3896011)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

I was meaning new model but didn't make it clear. Certainly right on the Cookie front on that basis.

Civic FK2 and MG6 both won on their first weekend in 2012. I don't think there have been any other examples during the NGTC era.

Craner Curves · 7 Apr 2019, 18:10 (Ref:3896014)

You've got to wonder if Speedworks have taken a step back by going to a hatchback. Corolla sedan may have been a better option? Or is the non Toyota engine hindering them more than the bodyshape?

GT6 · 7 Apr 2019, 18:12 (Ref:3896016)

Just back from brands, ruddy good time as always, on topic of being asked to pit for loose bodywork then the silly way a certain person dragged his rear bumper around for many laps was unforgivable and although i did not see it fall off the car eventually passed by us at druids with no rear bumper closely followed by an MG with something wedged under it.

Evantra · 7 Apr 2019, 18:21 (Ref:3896019)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

You've got to wonder if Speedworks have taken a step back by going to a hatchback. Corolla sedan may have been a better option? Or is the non Toyota engine hindering them more than the bodyshape?

To be fair, all NGTC championships have been won in a hatchback shape, plus Sutton in the Subaru which generally struggles with straight line speed.

Maybe over the course of the whole season a hatch is better, but I think the BMWs will dominate Donington.

Evantra · 7 Apr 2019, 18:34 (Ref:3896022)

Missed races 1 and 2 today but caught 3. Looks like another really good, unpredictable season. With the wet / dry jumbled grids I think it's difficult to judge pace at this point though!

Audi looks much quicker than ever before, and good to finally see AmD getting podiums (though feel really sorry for Tordoff..!)

Chilton looks like he'll be in the running again, shame the other Focii drivers aren't quite there yet.

Solid enough start for Ingram; 3-series looked like the quickest car out there to me.

PMR were disappointing, both drivers nowhere (not wanting to start a Plato debate again but honestly I'm not surprised!)

Excelr8's cars look really good, but as predicted they were really struggling today.

For HARD, Boardley was very disappointing, nice to see Crees pick up points though was more down to tires, and Thompson not too far off Goff.

Good to see the Mercs up there today after a woeful qualifying; impressed with Jelley too (must have already quadrupled his points from his last couple years!)

BTC I think will be a dark horse, both Cook and Smiley seemed really quick today - more so than Dynamics! Come a long way from the old Cruzes a couple years back!

Nice not to see a safety car, too!

12 different teams and 10 different models / gens in the top 12!

Evantra · 7 Apr 2019, 18:43 (Ref:3896024)

Penalty for Chilton, Butcher gets the win!?

CarfanLUFC · 7 Apr 2019, 18:43 (Ref:3896025)

Hope not a wind up but a mate just text to say Chilton been given a penalty and Butcher takes the race 3 win

Heavyd123 · 7 Apr 2019, 18:44 (Ref:3896027)

Disgraceful, how many times has neal got away with worse behaviour...

porsche962fan · 7 Apr 2019, 18:47 (Ref:3896028)

so congrats to AMD and Butcher for losing their BTCC win virginity !!

the Honda investment already paid off

Mark0994 · 7 Apr 2019, 18:48 (Ref:3896029)

Chilton had crossed the line first to secure honours in his Motorbase-run Ford Focus but was then deemed to be at fault for an incident involving Matt Neal as the pair diced for the lead of the race, with contact at Clearways as Chilton made his move for position.
Having looked into the incident, Chilton was hit with a five second time penalty, which drops him down to second place in the results behind Butcher.
Butcher had secured his personal best result with second place, which also matched the best result to date for the Cobra Sport AmD team.
The amended result means a first victory for both team and driver as a result.

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