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8 Sep 2008, 15:17 (Ref:2284765) | #176 | |
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............... I only usually travel these ways weekly and dont live there so cant possibly pass judgement.........
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re my statement - there two bands of protesters - those that want a satisfactory solution to the noise - they need to give the circuit a chance to complete the bund etc that was agreed with the council and those that want to see the circuit closed down.
I live close to the circuit and the bund will help my ears as well - especially from the screaming motor bikes on bike track days that are more noisy than the actual racing. My biggest concern is that MSV donot throw the "towell in" on the planned redevelopment - £15m is too big of an investment to lose for this rural area. Our children etc need local job opportunities etc plus the benefit this will bring to all the area |
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IMHO if the devolpment doesn't go through I can see MSV taking the money to a circuit & area that is populated with locals that are not blinkered to a fantastic opputunity to bring work, money & investment to the area.
How much would the land be worth to a property developer? Mind you they would only complain about the noise of the builders then!!! Plus there would also the noise of the extra people living there, extra noise from the schools, extra noise of the breath coming out of their mouths. Oh dear it seems like it's just extra noise whatever happens. The world's gone mad & is full of NIMBYs, sad sad state of affiars |
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Be interesting to know how long the people who are raising objections have lived there. The circuit has most likly been there a lot longer, also I would imagine is actually a lot quieter than in the old days when F1,F5000 sports car raced there or not so long ago when Lotus f1 team would turn up to test, with no noise restrictions, how many complaints were received when those cars raced? If they were not aware of the race circuit, well they should have looked into it further before buying, if they were and were told noise wasn't an issue, then prehaps they need to take legal action against the parties that told them this.
In fact every wednesday for the last 6 months I have been within 3 miles of circuit and not heard anything, so been interesting to know what areas the objections come from. I would be quite happy to visit these areas so to see if we are all being unreasonable and the noise is a major issue. |
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I do live within a mile from a short track circuit which generally operates at times when you are in the garden, bank holiday, weekends and late into the night. Can I hear it, yes I can but its been there a long time and I can hear the local dual carriageway more often and permanently than the track. Surely the A11 makes more noise all of the time than a circuit? It does strike me that this campaign is a little futile attempt to shut the circuit down because someone has suggested investing and improving it. Ultimately a stance that will see no one benefiting - IMHO |
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I can understand the noise from unrestricted bikes and cars being a pain, but give MSV a chance to do something about it. I have heard a rumour that JP wants the Touring Cars and FPA at Cadwell Park, wonder if he will look at putting the money there instead? : So, if MSV take there investment elsewhere, and Snett closes, then what do the 'locals' have to look forward to?. I know, how about a nice, roudy housing estate full of Anti Social behaviour? Let me think, what would i rather have.... some noise from a Racing Circuit or being told to off, or worse, by the local yob on the Housing Estate..... |
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10 Sep 2008, 09:19 (Ref:2286319) | #182 | |
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There is no constant noise at Snetterton or any other circuit. We all know that there are breaks between races, we all know there are lunch breaks, we all know that very few events go on into the evenings. We don't have to live there to know that, we simply are part of the industry and know how it works.
These objections are all part of the increasing view in this country that we are all entitled to total silence when we want it. This is a small country compared with its population and that belief is simply unworkable. I am sure we all have some noise to put up with when in our gardens, in my case it is the A34, but I am big enough and fair minded enough to accept that normal people like me are making that noise on the A34 and so I must live and let live. The protestors at Snetterton, and other circuits have somehow got to develop a similar open minded approach to the lives of other people and accept that we are all trying to have a reasonable existance on an overcrowded island. |
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Still, with enough cash the track could be widened....£15million should cover it.... Cadwell is my fave circuit though....... |
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Dear all,
just registered my support in as forthright a way as I could ,with the gutless people that run Breckland C.C. I , too,fear that the "nimbys " have a very limited view in this matter,after all MSV are spending a fortune to try to give the residents what they claim to want-peace? |
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Limited? I'd say it more "tunnel".But buy the sound of the tame one,it seems more like its down to trackdays as opposed to race days,when was the last race running till 23.00 hours?.
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Having been going to snet since the late 70's, I know for certain cars used to make far more noise than they do now. I used to go up to the circuit to watch F1 tests and the they definately far noisier than anything running now. But October 2005 suddenly noise increases.....nothing to do with hearing about plans......
Noise from 24hr... I was involved in meeting at times you can't even hear the cars within the circuit, they were only 2cv's! But as GT3 stated, I am sure a large housing estate will be far more acceptable. And I am sure all the additional revenue won't be missed by the local businesses, whats a few more companies going to the wall and further unemployment, thats not intolerable to all concerned I am sure. |
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10 Sep 2008, 16:19 (Ref:2286559) | #190 | ||
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I know why this has all started,its the fresh air opening up the ear canals,only problem is theres nothing inbetween now!.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but dont we have to run better silencers now,I'm going to send mine back because it is obviously not doing what its supposed to do. Last edited by terence; 10 Sep 2008 at 16:22. |
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Weekends there is a 6:30pm curfew, except for the one weekend a year that the 24hr race happens. Don't know the facts about track days, but any that I've been to also finish by 6:30 |
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The track has been there for years before 1981 as a legitimate enterprise, and as many have said todays cars are no louder than the Unsilenced cars from the 60's & 70's. If a circuit wants to develop within it's current boundaries why is that a problem? This does not mean that the number of Race weekends and track days will increase. It just means that they will be higher profile and bring more money and jobs to the local area. But you're not a 16 year old school leaver looking for a job are you, so why should we expect you to care? |
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AFAIK, track and test days are noise limited anyway. I think, but not 100% sure, they now run to MSA Noise Regulations. I know they are tested becasue on the Saturday morning some cars have a "MSV Passed Noise Test" sticker on the car, but the Enviromental Scruitneer will check the cars again. Plus, if during the meeting a car is noisy, then they called in and the Scruitneer checks the car again. BTW, it's not all the circuits fault anyway, the MSA set the limits for race cars, but when different series run at different levels then they will always be noisy. A lot of people go for the sound of a nice V8! May I ask about the lorry park which is right beside Snet, how much noise do they produce. A fair bit i would say by the size of the place, from dawn to dusk no doubt, but has anyone complained about them, or are they "useful" noise? Think i will complain, get the place closed down.... people will lose their jobs, but at least i can enjoy a cup of earl grey in the garden! Quote:
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Yes they are a useful noise. No we never hear them, and you must have dead good hearing all the way from Lynn to Snetterton drinking your Earl Grey tea. Yet again a misconception that we are trying to get the track shut down. What's the matter with you people? Don't you bother to read?
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