WEC Race 6 Hours of Spa - Page 8

Toyotats03OUS · 29 Apr 2023, 15:09 (Ref:4153582)

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Originally Posted by TCT

You sure?

According to timing I get this for pit stops:

Pit stops: #2 - Cadillac Racing
IN LAPPIT IN TIMEPREV STINT DURATIONPREV STINT LAPSYELLOW LAPSPIT OUT TIMESTOP DURATION
34 14:09:55 01:20:40 33 10 14:11:04 00:01:09
61 15:19:44 01:08:39 27 11 15:21:16 00:01:31
85 16:13:24 00:52:08 24 4 16:14:47 00:01:22

TOTAL STOPS 3 TOTAL PIT TIME 00:04:03
SHORTEST 00:01:09
AVERAGE 00:01:21
LONGEST 00:01:31

And what about the #5?

What did it do wrong to deserve being a lap down?

I don't remember the outside factors that let the number 5 to be a lap down,but the numbe 6 porsche was fast and it brought down the gap from 40 second to 12 seconds to the toyota by the time the car broke down, You cant expect every team to be great, there is always outside factors that will affect some of these cars, driver, set up, track, weather, etc.

Toyotats03OUS · 29 Apr 2023, 15:09 (Ref:4153584)

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Originally Posted by TCT

One less stop at that moment

They stopped under yellow once and had to come back under green directly after, so they should have 1 more pitstop total than #7 just for that.

ah, thank you!

Mike E · 29 Apr 2023, 15:10 (Ref:4153586)

This no tyre warmers thing is getting expensive

Mike E · 29 Apr 2023, 15:11 (Ref:4153587)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Still think LMDh's need a little boost (nothing crazy) but from a regs standpoint I'm not sure it can happen now until after Le Mans.

Peugeot might as well just park it if LMH is slowed

J Jay · 29 Apr 2023, 15:12 (Ref:4153588)

It does seem odd that, with so many safety measures, cold tyres has been so rigidly enforced. I suspect if a couple of high-profile cold-tyre crashes happen at Le Mans that regulation may be swiftly amended.

Simmi · 29 Apr 2023, 15:13 (Ref:4153589)

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Originally Posted by Mike E

This no tyre warmers thing is getting expensive

Not sustainable this IMO. It's bad for your product seeing amazing cars crawling around or crashing at walking speed. Certainly no cost saving or environmental gain when you're trashing cars and replacing them.

Toyotats03OUS · 29 Apr 2023, 15:13 (Ref:4153590)

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Jay

It does seem odd that, with so many safety measures, cold tyres has been so rigidly enforced. I suspect if a couple of high-profile cold-tyre crashes happen at Le Mans that regulation may be swiftly amended.

Might happen before Le mans!

outnumbered · 29 Apr 2023, 15:15 (Ref:4153591)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Not sustainable this IMO. It's bad for your product seeing amazing cars crawling around or crashing at walking speed. Certainly no cost saving or environmental gain when you're trashing cars and replacing them.

Agreed, both those crashes have looked almost unavoidable.

KlBD · 29 Apr 2023, 15:17 (Ref:4153593)

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Originally Posted by TCT

Just like the BoP adjustment (or not) they won't do anything until after Le Mans.

And then it will be like "oops, wrong decision"

That is exactly the same with BoP and tire warmers.

Even #8 crashed on cold tires yesterday

TCT · 29 Apr 2023, 15:21 (Ref:4153595)

They should put more sponsors on the safety cars and on the trucks picking up the broken cars.

They will be on TV for quite some time.

**Bentley03** · 29 Apr 2023, 15:22 (Ref:4153596)

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Originally Posted by outnumbered

Agreed, both those crashes have looked almost unavoidable.

Exactly, this is crazy, and as Rich says, unsustainable.

JT240Z · 29 Apr 2023, 15:50 (Ref:4153604)

Can someone please explain why cold tires are such a problem with WEC drivers when IMSA has had no tire warmers since the beginning and doesn't have the same crash rate. Is it track or driver related? Could it be an issue with the new hybrid gas/electric design? Weather/track temperatures?

TCT · 29 Apr 2023, 15:53 (Ref:4153607)

Maybe it generally isn't as cold in IMSA?

If you look at the stands all people are wearing jackets because it is just cold outside.

I don't know about the track temperature but outside it is just +/- 13 degrees Celcius.

JT240Z · 29 Apr 2023, 15:55 (Ref:4153608)

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Originally Posted by TCT

Maybe it generally isn't as cold in IMSA?

If you look at the stands all people are wearing jackets because it is just cold outside.

I don't know about the track temperature but outside it is just +/- 13 degrees Celcius.

Track temps could be a contributing factor. Maybe adjust the rules to take into account for that. My bet is that the tire manufacturers will learn to compensate. Another progression of technology on its way.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...re-warmer-ban/

Toyotats03OUS · 29 Apr 2023, 16:04 (Ref:4153611)

2:02:327 for Kamui

KlBD · 29 Apr 2023, 16:04 (Ref:4153612)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCT

Maybe it generally isn't as cold in IMSA?

If you look at the stands all people are wearing jackets because it is just cold outside.

I don't know about the track temperature but outside it is just +/- 13 degrees Celcius.

You're correct that generally IMSA races aren't as cold as Spa, but it should have been quite chilly at night during Daytona and there were only minor issues at this year's Rolex 24. Maybe because once you exit the Daytona pitlane you are in the relatively flat and slow Daytona infield vs going downhill into Eau Rouge?

JT240Z · 29 Apr 2023, 16:26 (Ref:4153614)

Been pretty cold at Road Atlanta at night. In 2021 it was delayed until November due too scheduling changes with Le Mans. It got quite cold at night and the exit from the pits is not into a slow straight. Still no issues. I wonder if it's just what the drivers have gotten use to and adapted to the conditions.

Simmi · 29 Apr 2023, 16:49 (Ref:4153618)

On the whole that was a good one. P2 and GT-Am stepped up. Will be kinda sad to see a third class disappear next year as we'll lose an entire race within the race - especially when Toyota are comfortable at the top of Hypercar.

**Adam43** · 29 Apr 2023, 16:52 (Ref:4153621)

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Originally Posted by TCT

buemi doing nothing but complain about everything and everyone

He is perfectly suited to being a sportscar fan!

**FIRE** · 29 Apr 2023, 16:52 (Ref:4153622)

Spa

I enjoyed the racing this afternoon.

TCT · 29 Apr 2023, 16:53 (Ref:4153624)

The race was good in LMP2 and GTE, and once more not so interesting in Hypercar.

I have a feeling the LM 24 race will be a big disappointment, much promise and huge expectations and just the same old...

crooky · 29 Apr 2023, 16:54 (Ref:4153625)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

On the whole that was a good one. P2 and GT-Am stepped up. Will be kinda sad to see a third class disappear next year as we'll lose an entire race within the race - especially when Toyota are comfortable at the top of Hypercar.

Sorry what do you mean by losing a class? I thought LMP2 was remaining and GTE being replaced with GT3?

Toyotats03OUS · 29 Apr 2023, 16:55 (Ref:4153626)

Happy for my team and their success! next, Le mans!

J Jay · 29 Apr 2023, 16:55 (Ref:4153627)

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Originally Posted by crooky

Sorry what do you mean by losing a class? I thought LMP2 was remaining and GTE being replaced with GT3?

That is happening, but to make more room for LMH/LMDH & GT3-LM entries, LMP2 is also being axed from the WEC.

TCT · 29 Apr 2023, 16:58 (Ref:4153628)

That's a pity because some of the best racing is there.
(in LMP2)

At least that category is unpredictable and there are lots of cars that can win or at the very least finish on the podium.

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