New SUVs - Page 8

Akrapovic · 24 Apr 2019, 17:30 (Ref:3899438)

I always thought the word "sport" was meant for carrying sport stuff, like bikes and surf boards and stuff. And now I'm sitting thinking about that, it makes even less sense.

**joeb** · 24 Apr 2019, 18:25 (Ref:3899448)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I always thought the word "sport" was meant for carrying sport stuff, like bikes and surf boards and stuff. And now I'm sitting thinking about that, it makes even less sense.

I've never put much thought into it, but I do wonder when the term was first coined and what vehicle(s) it was referring to? Now it is pretty much anything not a sedan, coupe, or truck in the US.

Akrapovic · 24 Apr 2019, 19:04 (Ref:3899458)

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Originally Posted by joeb

I've never put much thought into it, but I do wonder when the term was first coined and what vehicle(s) it was referring to? Now it is pretty much anything not a sedan, coupe, or truck in the US.

In the UK we only started using it in the last decade I think. We always said "jeep" and "4x4", even if it wasn't a Jeep, or four wheel drive. Which I guess is even more wrong.

Mike Bell · 25 Apr 2019, 05:21 (Ref:3899508)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I always thought the word "sport" was meant for carrying sport stuff, like bikes and surf boards and stuff. And now I'm sitting thinking about that, it makes even less sense.

That’s what I’ve always thought the definition was. But a large percentage of current ‘SUV’s would be hard pressed to carry much stuff! Better of with a decent wagon / estate car / break........

**BertMk2** · 2 May 2019, 11:11 (Ref:3901209)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

That’s what I’ve always thought the definition was. But a large percentage of current ‘SUV’s would be hard pressed to carry much stuff! Better of with a decent wagon / estate car / break........

This is what I don't understand about SUV's (and more specifically why people buy them) - they're bigger on the outside but no bigger on the inside. So you get all the disadvantages of a larger car (extra weight, worse handling, braking, acceleration, fuel economy, higher running costs, higher insurance) but none of the benefits. I mean they even make it harder for the dog to get in the boot.

Take something like the Nissan Juke (ignore the awful looks for a minute) - it's bloody tiny inside. The Ford Kuga is just an obese Focus hatchback, the Qashqai is no better (and seems to be selling in huge numbers). I just don't get it. If you don't need lots of space - buy a hatchback, if you need extra space - buy an estate. SUV's don't need to exist - it's a class that sells in huge numbers for no valid reason.

justracing · 10 May 2019, 08:11 (Ref:3902914)

Couldn't agree more, what's more to the point is the amount of space they occupy on the road; the visual obstruction when following a SUV particularly at road junctions is a real problem unless you're driving a bigger one! As for car parks don't get me started!

Mike Bell · 10 May 2019, 12:24 (Ref:3902985)

As you say, it’s almost a case of having to adhere to the saying- “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em”!

Had the opportunity to ride in a brand new V90 the other day, which is huge inside, but didn’t block the view of everyone behind. All the space most would ever need.....

Mike Harte · 10 May 2019, 14:50 (Ref:3903007)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Had the opportunity to ride in a brand new V90 the other day, which is huge inside, but didn’t block the view of everyone behind. All the space most would ever need.....

Yes, but it's a..............Volvo!

Mike Bell · 10 May 2019, 17:04 (Ref:3903027)

Mock not, they make some seriously nice cars nowadays- under the guidance of their Chinese parent company!

NaBUru38 · 29 May 2019, 19:02 (Ref:3906812)

Land Rover Discovery Sport

4.60 m long, 5+2 seats
150-240 hp engines
Plugin hybrid for 2020

NaBUru38 · 1 Jun 2019, 23:33 (Ref:3907433)

Buick Encore GX

4.30 m / 169 inches long
Inline-4 turbo engine
Made in Shanghai, China

NaBUru38 · 2 Jun 2019, 00:06 (Ref:3907437)

Chevrolet Trailblazer

Made in South Korea

**BertMk2** · 3 Jun 2019, 14:43 (Ref:3907716)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Land Rover Discovery Sport

4.60 m long, 5+2 seats
150-240 hp engines
Plugin hybrid for 2020

"Sport"

crmalcolm · 3 Jun 2019, 15:52 (Ref:3907725)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

"Sport"

Aren't all vehicles in this thread - by classification of being an SUV - already 'sport'?

I guess we should refer to it as the Land Rover Discovery Sport Sport Utility Vehicle?

Although is it worse than the Ford Festival Festival?
Or the even more ridiculously named Toyota Midship Roadster 2-Seater Roadster?

broadrun96 · 3 Jun 2019, 17:58 (Ref:3907740)

I'm still questioning how any of these vehicles have any UTILITY to them? Don't think many people, in the US at least, are loading up anything heavier than groceries in the $75k BMW SUVs. Although BMW is at least aware of this and calls them SportsActivityVehicles in the literature. But GM? Not a bit of sport or utility, especially since the Suburban went to full-time third row seating over the old removable and fold second row for an 8' bed. Quite comfortable for 6'7 ogre to sleep in line at Road Atlanta.

**BertMk2** · 4 Jun 2019, 14:30 (Ref:3907892)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

I'm still questioning how any of these vehicles have any UTILITY to them?

So from a starting point of 'SUV' we've determined that they're lacking in 'S' and 'U' - so they're just 'V'.

crmalcolm · 4 Jun 2019, 15:49 (Ref:3907911)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

So from a starting point of 'SUV' we've determined that they're lacking in 'S' and 'U' - so they're just 'V'.

I guess that's because most of the cars in this thread are Crossovers, not SUVs. So not even a 'V'.

Crossover Cars - CCs?

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 4 Jun 2019, 21:12 (Ref:3907957)

CCOBS ... Car Chassis on bigger Springs

Mike Harte · 5 Jun 2019, 09:20 (Ref:3908010)

Surely it should be SBOW - sculptured brick on wheels!

broadrun96 · 7 Jun 2019, 11:58 (Ref:3908446)

I think I've found the ultimate actual sporty and utility vehicle, Pontiac Stinger

NaBUru38 · 7 Jun 2019, 14:59 (Ref:3908480)

That would have been a great rival to the Vitara and Feroza.

chillibowl · 7 Jun 2019, 15:02 (Ref:3908481)

the philosophy behind it ('lifestyle vehicle for active people') makes me think of what they were going for with the Aztec...including a built in cooler and camping table.

poorly executed in production but i like the notion of actually having a car that can offer more then just help with the daily commute and buy groceries on the way home with.

along those lines, another Pontiac concept gem...the firebird hauler!

NaBUru38 · 7 Jun 2019, 15:07 (Ref:3908484)

An American shooting brake!

crmalcolm · 7 Jun 2019, 16:08 (Ref:3908495)

Surely the ultimate SUV?

broadrun96 · 7 Jun 2019, 18:28 (Ref:3908514)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Surely the ultimate SUV?

But how sporty is in on the road??

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Originally Posted by chillibowl

the philosophy behind it ('lifestyle vehicle for active people') makes me think of what they were going for with the Aztec...including a built in cooler and camping table.

Supposedly the actual production version of that was the Aztek. Sounds like a LOT of committee bs went in to that change to become one of the vehicles often recognized as one of the 10 worst ever.

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