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11 Feb 2020, 13:30 (Ref:3956939) | #176 | ||
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Sepang is this weekend, with 23 cars: 9 LMP2, 8 LMP3 and 6 GT3.
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I haven't watched it through yet, but it looks like there was an extended hold, or two, during the Sepang race for significant rainfall. I was suspicious about that after seeing that the run time for the full stream was about what you'd expect for a 6-hour, rather than a 4-hour race.
I held off, because I didn't want to rain on CCM's parade, and then it kind of slipped my mind. Anyway, I managed to do it, watching most all of the race from Tailem Bend, but the bad sign was how mentally tired I was afterward from, presumably, keeping track of where on the circuit the cars in shot were. To give an idea, I'd say I feel I have to break up a lap at The Bend into 9 segments. The nearest parallel, Miller in Utah, I consider it adequate to split it into just 5 sections. Even the Nordschleife, I only separate into 10, and those are long enough that you don't have to keep track of them all at once. You know which one you're in, and the one or two that are coming up next. And as a final example, Le Mans, which has roughly the same number of corners as The Bend, I probably only see the need to recognize about 6 distinct sectors there. I still just don't see The Bend as a great option for the WEC, with more cars, and more competitive classes. The back side of the course, as expected by the drivers, so it wasn't just me, was troublesome enough in the AsLMS, even with lower-class traffic that was, largely, fairly courteous about letting faster-class cars through where and when they could. And while the WEC doesn't have LMP3, the GTEs will corner better than the GT3s, making a harder time for the Prototypes to get by. |
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The old non-spec P2 cars have been dropped in favor of more sub-trophy spec P2 cars, and The Bend has been axed in favor of Shanghai. No reason to ever follow this series again either then, got it
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The older P2 car class were either ORECAs or Ligiers, were ageing, with engines difficult to source and expensive to rebuild. Some of these cars are already in historic race Series - in fact the Championship winning car (United Ligier JSP2) from Asian Le Mans Series in 2018/19 raced in the Masters Historic Legends Race at Monza, in full Asian LMS livery, just weeks later! The Bend has been shelved for two reasons this coming season - One the timing of Chinese New Year, an essential matter for any Asian-based product to take account of, the other the reality that the additional expense of freighting to/ from Australia, and the additional travel costs fro the teams, would have been a significant issue for an industry that is REALLY going to struggle in the wake of COVID19. If you aren't expecting other Series to adopt a similar strategy of cutting back on cost then you can expect to suffer significant further disappointment, or they can expect to see entries dematerialise! |
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Whether or not people would have actually continued to come with the old cars is irrelevant to me - well, largely irrelevant anyway. It's banning something out of competition even though they could still be there without actually causing issue to anyone which is the matter. Same is with the available models - yes in actuality what you got here was the old Oak and Oreca coupes and nothing else, but you could have also entered SMP or Dome or even HPD-ARX 04 if you wished. That might have happened, something you can't even dream of doing in the spec Oreca 07 land. Same goes for engines, yes they are ageing but Nissan was not the only choice. There could have been leeway given there to the specifications. Finally as for the historic usage, I will always go back to Saleen S7-R which was running in historics years before even winning Le Mans 24 Hours. Other great example is Oreca FLM09 of course
Obviously the point given for the effect of COVID-19 is justified - although it's still disappointment as it's own thing - but the Chinese new year break is something they could've avoided by not having the winter calendar altogether. Or more easily arranging the dates differently even in this format. Now, the biggest tragedy here is that after the promising signs earlier on, this is a series could have been the last safe haven for old cars rejected by everyone else. This includes not only the old non-spec LMP2s but also the newer generation LMP1s. But no, they will be directed to trash bin after only brief amount of running, and what you will get instead is the likes of "Aurus" |
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If that were the case at the start of this season then there would be no auto-entry for LM (minimum full-season entry is 4 for that) and therefore no class |
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7 Apr 2020, 18:05 (Ref:3969167) | #182 | |
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Neither GG nor Chiana are wrong.
Chianas reasoning makes sense. I'll be honest, the lack of the old cars bothers me. And AsLMS is now just becoming an easy way for ELMS teams to go get an easy entry. And losing the Bend makes the circuit choices significantly worse. It's not a particularly interesting calendar as it is. GGs posts really just explain why it's like that. It's correct...but it doesn't make the series more interesting again does it? AsLMS is really struggling to be interesting, at a time where WEC is over its peak, and ELMS is showing pros and cons - more cons than it used to show, but still has a lot of pros. |
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7 Apr 2020, 19:46 (Ref:3969179) | #183 | |
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Now we agree on something. You just forgot to mention that is the easiest path for wealthy ELMS to go get an entry. Those with tight budgets can't jump on the wagon. When somebody says it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.
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When we think of the "old P2 cars", it would appear that many people seem to see these things as some ancient beings, from another time. Well, in a way it's true, as the age of non-spec and non-bop seems so distant now. However, if we discount the old Lolas, all of these last-gen LMP2 coupes - the ones eligible for ASLMS until now - were built in 2013-2015. 05, JSP2, BR01, ARX-04b, T128, S103. That's just a fraction before the spec regs came to force. Which means you have mere 5 year old cars here being thrown to junkyard as trash. Even less for most of the current generation LMP1 cars, 2 to 3 years! Meanwhile Oreca 07 will probably get a 15 year lifespan to please the pockets of Hughes de Chaunac later on - just as it was with Oreca FLM09 LMPC. Now, remember for example the old Reynard-Zytek-Gibson open tops which kept running year after year for well over a decade with minor modifications to meet the changing regulations? Can one compare the fate of those cars to Oreca 07 and it's rebadged 'cousins'? No, not really, the Zyteks kept evolving through the years and they had different packages available, not being identical year after year for same exact results. The Zyteks, along with the other P2 cars, we're in essence living things capable of change, not stale statues with fake mustaches in some of them. Last edited by Deleted; 8 Apr 2020 at 10:44. |
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Speaking of "old cars" - in quotes since we are just talking about 5 year old chassis and engines here - the two SMP LMP2s are now being raced in Masters Endurance Legends historics. And here we have the Asian Le Mans, which, if it would have wanted, could have extended the life of non-spec LMP2s for the next x years with the potential cost and loss of... what was it, nothing? Yes I think that was it. In essence, prevented the historics of being the only place to go anymore, other than maybe Thunderhill.
Perhaps SMP could organize a series of their own for their rejected, bin-thrown LMP2s as well as LMP1 Dallaras? |
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28 Oct 2020, 17:15 (Ref:4013571) | #186 | ||
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DSC has an article about ARC Bratislava getting a couple new Ginetta LMP3 cars! No announcements yet on where they will race, but they look pretty good in yellow. Also nice to see somebody with a car other than the Ligier or Duquense.
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Exciting news. Hopefully they run those and are competitive.
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2021 calendar switches from South East Asia to Yas Marina as COVID uncertainties bite
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The old shortened V8 Supercars loop, which is what they probably mean here, was slightly less terrible than the regular GP layout, there was even some grass next to it
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14 Dec 2020, 13:42 (Ref:4022882) | #191 | ||
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It looks like a Ginetta G61 will actually get a run in ALMS.
Hopefully competitive. http://www.dailysportscar.com/2020/1...d-fia-wec.html |
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14 Dec 2020, 17:05 (Ref:4022930) | #192 | |
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>ARC Bratislava
>competitive I love them, but, yeah. Also with so many top teams in LMP3 it will be very hard for them for that. |
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14 Dec 2020, 18:48 (Ref:4022947) | #193 | ||
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Fair enough. They only need one decent driver to show its pace.
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Yes, but still glad to see the Ginetta with a team. I think it is a great looking P3 car, and i have always liked the teams liveries!
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17 Dec 2020, 11:06 (Ref:4023402) | #196 | |
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36 cars.
7 P2's, 10 P3's, 19 GT3's http://www.dailysportscar.com/wp-con...Entry-List.jpg Nice and diverse field, Im sure the closer to Europe loation has helped massively as we have a lot of European teams running. Interesting to see Walkenhorst listed after the mass cull of factory supported teams by BMW. While this is likely entirely a customer entry, it perhaps at least shows Walkenhorst still close to BMW after their IGTC run in 2020, eyes on that new M4 then! |
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2 Feb 2021, 15:58 (Ref:4033054) | #197 | ||
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Miro Konopka, Charlie Robertson and Tom Cloet in the ARC Bratislava Ginetta. Will be interesting to see what Robertson can do with it.
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Multiple additional teams confirm drivers - very few TBCs remaining with all known to be filled
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