[BTCC] Round Six, Knockhill 30-31 Jul, Races 16,17&18

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by thetool

You've Been Framed

Ha I thought that went about 15 years ago!

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by thetool

This weekend for example is ... the 45,346th repeat of an old Bond film.

Oh good, which one is it? So much better than the newer ones.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by peebee2

Oh good, which one is it? So much better than the newer ones.

You Only Live Twice this time round.

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by mattcanary

Totally agree.I sense ITV may be losing interest.

It has been a big summer of sport, (although not sure ITV have the rights to that much of it!)

Let’s hope ITV don’t read all of this nonsense. Talk about biting the hand that feeds - without TV the series would be dead within gone season. How can reschedule from ITV 4 to ITV be a bad thing?! How about a bit of positivity rather than the constant relentless moaning ?

[S griffin]

I don't see what's wrong with moving it to ITV1 now and again. At least it gets a more mainstream audience. And I doubt Gow would want to lose ITV. He has said the last thing he wants to do is have the coverage behind a paywall

[AnnoyedMoose]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Let’s hope ITV don’t read all of this nonsense. Talk about biting the hand that feeds - without TV the series would be dead within gone season. How can reschedule from ITV 4 to ITV be a bad thing?! How about a bit of positivity rather than the constant relentless moaning ?

I just hope they don't read the official BTCC Facebook page. You think people were having to give up their first born to watch it on ITV with some of the comments on there.

[3marinadrive]

Originally Posted by antnee

If he had, there would have been a penalty.

If he had meant to do it AND gained an advantage fair enough....he tucked in behind Sutton and they continued battling after that.

I find it mildly amusing the way some people comment on her reading Hill being overly aggressive...lots of very short memories about there majority of the grid - including Sutton - being pretty robust - and that's a more appropriate description - robust...surely we all want good, hard, fair racing don't we?

Jake did not gain an advantage - why would he risk damaging his car and hitting Sutton intentionally and know he would get a penalty if he fired him off? Both of them drove robustly - Turkington hit Sutton too but no one seems to pick up on that!

Let's just celebrate arguably the two quickest drivers at the moment going for it at a circuit that rewards commitment!

[Millvi]

Originally Posted by 3marinadrive

If he had meant to do it AND gained an advantage fair enough....he tucked in behind Sutton and they continued battling after that.

I find it mildly amusing the way some people comment on her reading Hill being overly aggressive...lots of very short memories about there majority of the grid - including Sutton - being pretty robust - and that's a more appropriate description - robust...surely we all want good, hard, fair racing don't we?

Jake did not gain an advantage - why would he risk damaging his car and hitting Sutton intentionally and know he would get a penalty if he fired him off? Both of them drove robustly - Turkington hit Sutton too but no one seems to pick up on that!

Let's just celebrate arguably the two quickest drivers at the moment going for it at a circuit that rewards commitment!

Are you Jake’s father Simon by any chance!?

[billy bleach]

I see Josh Cook is moaning about lack of power from the TOCA engine - Rory Butcher seemed to be going alright. I hope TOCA don’t fall for it like they did earlier in the season…./

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

I see Josh Cook is moaning about lack of power from the TOCA engine - Rory Butcher seemed to be going alright. I hope TOCA don’t fall for it like they did earlier in the season…./

Well, smack me down with a feather.
A BTCC driver providing an excuse for results by blaming something outside their control.

Next thing, you'll be telling me someone has complained about RWD advantage, lack of overtaking and a support race not being on TV?

In seriousness, Plato is in the team. So trying to manipulate the series administration is par for the cause. It's typical gamesmanship.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by 3marinadrive

Jake did not gain an advantage

From Sutton's perspective, there is an argument that says Jake did gain an advantage in the longer term.

The impact damaged Sutton's rear suspension, causing him to lose rear grip. This will have meant Sutton's front tyres were working harder, giving the RWD cars a better tyre balance late race.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The impact damaged Sutton's rear suspension, .

and we ended up again on the too fragile nature of current NGTC cars...

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

and we ended up again on the too fragile nature of current NGTC cars...

No - we end up with the fact that in almost all forms of motorsport, if one car slams into the back of another, there is a high chance that one of both cars will suffer damage.

The damage suffered by Sutton had nothing to do with the fragility of NGTC cars. It was actually an example of how, even after suffering damage, an NGTC car can still race and give a good result.

[S griffin]

I seem to remember the S2000 cars had even more fragile suspension or was that just the SEAT Leon?

[porsche962fan]

[QUOTE=crmalcolm;4121836]No - we end up with the fact that in almost all forms of motorsport, if one car slams into the back of another, there is a high chance that one of both cars will suffer damage.[quote]

there is a difference between cosmetic damage and actual damage

The damage suffered by Sutton had nothing to do with the fragility of NGTC cars. It was actually an example of how, even after suffering damage, an NGTC car can still race and give a good result.

you really beleive that ? Super tourers used to do near demolition derby and still not such issues

[3marinadrive]

Originally Posted by Millvi

Are you Jake’s father Simon by any chance!?

Just very close to the Hill family. Have been a big supporter of Jake since the beginning. As you can no doubt tell!

[Jay87]

Originally Posted by 3marinadrive

Just very close to the Hill family. Have been a big supporter of Jake since the beginning. As you can no doubt tell!

Tell Jake thanks very much for always making time to speak to my boy and sign things for him

[DaviePHD]

Great weekend of racing, sadly couldn't go this year as it's a great circuit for spectators.

Chuffed to see Ash get his first win in the Ford, that was a tense race. Good to see Gamble get his first win too.

[3marinadrive]

Originally Posted by Jay87

Tell Jake thanks very much for always making time to speak to my boy and sign things for him

That's nice to hear. Will do

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Millvi

I recall Jade Edwards appealing for more sponsors but I didn’t see enough of her car to see if she’d added any new logos.

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