ELMS ELMS (was LMS) 2012 discussion - Page 8

Victor_RO · 6 Jan 2012, 18:38 (Ref:3008301)

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Originally Posted by AGD

FWIW, it seems like Guess Racing Europ might still be around. I'm guessing the WEC would reject their entry if they tried to go down that route. Their only choice might be to enter ELMS P2 (or ALMS). Don't hold your breath waiting for that one.

They kept us and the ACO guessing for too long, I don't think the ACO would even consider them for anything after they promised to show up this year and never actually appeared at a race weekend.

AGD · 6 Jan 2012, 18:45 (Ref:3008303)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

They kept us and the ACO guessing for too long

Hence the name!

I seem to remember Pegasus saying something about ELMS. Maybe, maybe not. I'm a little fuzzy about that.

Simmi · 6 Jan 2012, 18:47 (Ref:3008305)

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Originally Posted by AGD

I seem to remember Pegasus saying something about ELMS. Maybe, maybe not. I'm a little fuzzy about that.

Would make a lot of sense for them to go the ELMS route as they make the step up, especially with them having an auto-invite in their back pocket.

lms · 6 Jan 2012, 19:08 (Ref:3008317)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Hence the name!

I seem to remember Pegasus saying something about ELMS. Maybe, maybe not. I'm a little fuzzy about that.

its either elms or wec with an oreca 03 (nissan engine)

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-8452.html

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-8893.html

AGD · 6 Jan 2012, 19:13 (Ref:3008319)

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Originally Posted by lms

its either elms or wec with an oreca 03 with nissan engine

Is that saying that they may run two cars in the ELMS if they choose that route or is the two in reference to it being one of two options?

lms · 6 Jan 2012, 19:24 (Ref:3008323)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Is that saying that they may run two cars in the ELMS if they choose that route or is the two in reference to it being one of two options?

i think the other one would be some crappy challenge car in elms. Theres no reason to do that imho once they are in lmp2. their main target is the lm24h.

AGD · 6 Jan 2012, 19:27 (Ref:3008327)

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Originally Posted by lms

i think the other one would be some crappy challenge car in elms. Theres no reason to do that imho once they are in lmp2. their main target is the lm24h.

Could they get another P2 auto-invite if they win ELMS LMPC again? If so, that might be a cheap way to stock up on at least one auto-invite. Then again, that first article said something about selling/running a FLM in ALMS? I don't know.

The Badger · 6 Jan 2012, 19:28 (Ref:3008328)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Is there a provisional entrylist knocking around anywhere for the ELMS? The only P2 entries I can think of are Greaves and Pecom.

Pecom are going WEC .

lms · 6 Jan 2012, 19:32 (Ref:3008331)

there is also bailey

"The Sbarta Sport team are looking at purchasing a Bailey Cars LMP2 Car to race in the 2012 Le Mans Series. A South African team is still in the pipeline but the initial aim is to get a Bailey Car LMP2 on the grid in 2012."

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ocus-9014.html

Simmi · 6 Jan 2012, 19:35 (Ref:3008335)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Pecom are going WEC .

They are doing both.

The Badger · 6 Jan 2012, 19:37 (Ref:3008340)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

They are doing both.

Oh , I wasnt aware ..... with one car ?

Victor_RO · 6 Jan 2012, 19:39 (Ref:3008341)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Oh , I wasnt aware ..... with one car ?

Possibly, there are no date clashes between the ELMS and the WEC. Although logistics are going to be an issue at times...

NaBUru38 · 8 Jan 2012, 02:41 (Ref:3008824)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Could they get another P2 auto-invite if they win ELMS LMPC again? If so, that might be a cheap way to stock up on at least one auto-invite.

Doing six 6-hour races isn't very cheap.

AGD · 8 Jan 2012, 02:52 (Ref:3008828)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Doing six 6-hour races isn't very cheap.

It's not cheap, but it's all relative. You're not going to get a P2 entry without racing something and doing it with an LMPC is probably the cheapest way. Plus, if they get another bid through LMPC, they can stay in ELMS even if they don't get an auto-invite through P2 and not spend the extra money doing WEC. Plus, they can always sell that auto-invite to some rent-ar-rider who wants in at Le Mans and make some good cash out of that.

Rodger Davies · 8 Jan 2012, 10:24 (Ref:3008900)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Doing six 6-hour races isn't very cheap.

no, but it's cheaper than doing two 3 hour races on opposite sides of the continent.

Victor_RO · 10 Jan 2012, 10:54 (Ref:3009765)

Thierry Boutsen's team will continue in LMP2 (ELMS I would imagine) as well as fielding McLarens in Blancpain, they have new sponsorship from Group Ginion (Belgian car dealership chain), drivers for LMP2 not announced yet though.

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-9226.html

AGD · 13 Jan 2012, 19:35 (Ref:3011332)

Autosport may not know what the name of the series is, but it looks like JMW is returning to the ELMS with James Walker as one of their drivers.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97013

Simmi · 13 Jan 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3011340)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Autosport may not know what the name of the series is, but it looks like JMW is returning to the ELMS with James Walker as one of their drivers.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97013

That's a strong entry for the ELMS. Glad to see James Walker staying on he looked to have lots of potential and speed next year.

Nice to see they are taking him to Le Mans too. They deserve a better run this year.

AndrewF31 · 13 Jan 2012, 22:15 (Ref:3011402)

Endurance Info reported about AF Corse's plans for 2012 and for ELMS they have:

- Pecom Racing Oreca 03 Nissan will do both WEC and ELMS, with Ayari, Kaffer and Perez Companc

- a Ferrari 458 Italia in GTE AM with Eppe Perrazini and Marco Cioci

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-9261.html

ELMS starting to fill up.

LeMans.pt · 13 Jan 2012, 22:28 (Ref:3011411)

End of the line for RML, or new project?
http://www.rml-adgroup.com/news/news..._hpdsale01.htm

wewantourdarbyback · 13 Jan 2012, 22:41 (Ref:3011416)

No news on their website since November. I hope they're just going for a new car or move to a different manufacturer/P1.

AGD · 13 Jan 2012, 22:44 (Ref:3011418)

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Originally Posted by wewantourdarbyback

No news on their website since November. I hope they're just going for a new car or move to a different manufacturer/P1.

It is news that they have an ARX-03b though. At least that is news to me. Perhaps their old (not so old) Courage/Oreca ARX-01d can be converted to ARX-03b spec?

wewantourdarbyback · 13 Jan 2012, 22:54 (Ref:3011422)

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Originally Posted by AGD

It is news that they have an ARX-03b though. At least that is news to me. Perhaps their old (not so old) Courage/Oreca ARX-01d can be converted to ARX-03b spec?

Either way they're looking to flog it rather than race it.

AGD · 13 Jan 2012, 22:59 (Ref:3011425)

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Originally Posted by wewantourdarbyback

Either way they're looking to flog it rather than race it.

It would seem that way. Perhaps Newton is just putting the car up for lease/sale just to see if anyone is desperate to get their hands on an HPD P2 car quick and not have to risk not making the early season tests/races. Maybe he could get a nice payday from that. That would be rather odd though if he planned on racing that ARX-03b unless there is another car somewhere.

EDIT: Maybe Newton got some second thoughts after his Spa crash last year? Maybe his schedule is too busy to race?

AGD · 14 Jan 2012, 00:35 (Ref:3011446)

Just another guess to add to the Newton speculation, but perhaps Newton did not want to do the WEC (or could not) and realized that a Le Mans bid would be very, very difficult to achieve. Maybe that took his interest away. Who knows. It's just some speculation though.

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