Driver Jenson Button's future - Page 8

Knowlesy · 7 Apr 2009, 15:54 (Ref:2435991)

Oh I am enjoying it. And would be happy for it to continue.

But equally, let's not criticise him when it wears off and he gets all serious on us.

**Peter Mallett** · 7 Apr 2009, 16:00 (Ref:2435993)

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But equally, let's not criticise him when it wears off and he gets all serious on us.

i guess if that were to happen the thread title would be "Jenson Button's Furore".

I'll get me coat.

Knowlesy · 7 Apr 2009, 16:01 (Ref:2435994)

It's OK, I brought it for you.

neilap · 7 Apr 2009, 16:20 (Ref:2436012)

It's normal for the drivers attitude to change. When the title is on the line the pressure changes everyone. They become amicable once they've won and a new season is beginning

**Peter Mallett** · 7 Apr 2009, 16:23 (Ref:2436014)

Just like Lewis.

**Adam43** · 7 Apr 2009, 18:38 (Ref:2436093)

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But we can only speculate.

His error for me was re-signing with Honda/BAR for how long, five years?

That is easy to say at this time...

And more difficult to say at this time.

calibrax · 8 Apr 2009, 18:23 (Ref:2436888)

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Holy... I did not think this would catch on so well...

Here is an article about Brawn's opinion (new found opinion) of JB.
Being a long time Honda fan I've always though JB was as good as anyone in F1. The main difference between him and someone like Alonso is that Alonso can drive a car that does not suit him better than JB can. That may be a mental thing but either way, that is what I feel separates them.
I agree about Hungary too. JB was rapidly catching Alonsa before his wheel fell off.

Yep it's the same opinion I have, that there are two types of driver:

Type A (Senna, Mansell, Alonso, Hamilton) have aggressive driving styles and can take a car that is 'almost' good and adjust their driving to compensate for the car's shortcomings.

Type B (Prost, Hill, Button) have very smooth driving styles and are almost unbeatable if given a car that is setup perfectly for the track.

Perhaps a little black & white, but valid nonetheless.

**Adam43** · 8 Apr 2009, 19:35 (Ref:2436928)

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I agree about Hungary too. JB was rapidly catching Alonsa before his wheel fell off.

I don't recall that being the case. Alonso had it in the bag and was quicker - certainly when you consider the pit stop points. I might be wrong, but I remember looking at this at the time.
I'm trying to put down the win, but I don't want to over sell it either.
I don't have access to any lap time stats at the moment.

Knowlesy · 8 Apr 2009, 19:37 (Ref:2436930)

Button was catching I think, but Alonso was comfy. I certainly don't recall thinking anything other than Fernando was going to get the 10 points.

**chunterer** · 8 Apr 2009, 20:08 (Ref:2436943)

Ditto Knowlesy.

calibrax reckon you're on the right track, although Prost would've fitted your Type A or Type B as and when required.....

**Adam43** · 8 Apr 2009, 20:10 (Ref:2436944)

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...although Prost would've fitted your Type A or Type B as and when required.....

I agree with this. People say Massa is like Prost because he can dominate a race. Which I find quite an odd thing to say. Of course Prost can do that, but Prost also fought his way to the front by both overtaking or being patient and using his head.

**chunterer** · 8 Apr 2009, 20:15 (Ref:2436951)

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I agree with this. People say Massa is like Prost because he can dominate a race. Which I find quite an odd thing to say. Of course Prost can do that, but Prost also fought his way to the front by both overtaking or being patient and using his head.

Indeed.

I reckon if Massa is like anyone, it could actually be Damon Hill?

As was the case with Damon, if Felipe is at the front he'll tend to disappear. Put him down in the pack and it all goes off for him kinda thing?

Overall Massa argubly has more racecraft (by that I mean ability to get past people fairly quickly) in his armoury wheras Damon used to get terribly bogged down in traffic, but I really think they are a similar 'model' of driver.

**Peter Mallett** · 9 Apr 2009, 03:56 (Ref:2437102)

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I don't recall that being the case. Alonso had it in the bag and was quicker - certainly when you consider the pit stop points. I might be wrong, but I remember looking at this at the time.
I'm trying to put down the win, but I don't want to over sell it either.
I don't have access to any lap time stats at the moment.

I think you'll find Button was catching at quite a lick and that was why Alonso had to make that last stop for tyres, which ultimately led to his undoing. Catching and passing at Hungary are two different things and of course that's where the element of luck came in. But it has to be said that Button was in the position to use that luck which as with Prost (for example) is a skill in itself.

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