[Official] Round 6: Monaco Grand Prix

[mac]

Originally Posted by ralf fan

Is there a more pointless driver than Jarno Trulli currently.

Ralf Schumacher?

[mac]

Typical FIA to destroy the single best piece of racecraft from the event.

But if it's in the rules... Actually, is it the rule? I'm still a little confused... Should it be the rule...?

[mjpiotr]

Originally Posted by strider

Although I said the complete opposite earlier, under rule 40.13 ( see below), the situation is clear enough.

No, I don't think it is clear. The message on the final lap from the race control (at least as broadcasted on BBC) was that "SC car is in this lap" which IMHO means that the race does not end with SC.

Anyway - another imprecise law by FIA

[Bononi]

Originally Posted by mac

Typical FIA to destroy the single best piece of racecraft from the event.

My words exactly.

[bjohnsonsmith]

When was rule 4.13 added to the rules?

[cmotd]

Originally Posted by ralf fan

Is there a more pointless driver than Jarno Trulli currently.

Milka Duno

But seriously... WOOHOO!! Great result for Webz

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by cmotd

Milka Duno

But seriously... WOOHOO!! Great result for Webz

[TwoSheds]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

When was rule 4.13 added to the rules?

If you mean the regulation regarding finishing under the safety car, then it's been in since at least 2005. I can't find any copies of the 2004 or earlier regulations online.

[Splatz the Cow]

Doesn't Milka have like five academic degrees now? Have some great photos of her at the Adelaide Le Mans. Where she was basically on pace with her team-mates in the Chamberlain Viper, just not the Orecas.

Back on topic, any talk of Barrichello get a slap for turfing his wheel at on coming drivers?

[westfieldbend]

Originally Posted by Splatz the Cow

Back on topic, any talk of Barrichello get a slap for turfing his wheel at on coming drivers?

Isn't there a rule stating you have to put the steering wheel back on the car after an incident?

I would have thought a grid penalty of 10 places or so at the next race would be sufficient, could have caused a crash/hit a driver/marshal/spectator.

[skells22]

yes, the driver must put his steering wheel back on after a breakdown/crash and i think due to the Schumacher/Alonso mess we are in i think that might have to wait

[Born Racer]

They must put a stop to this wheel throwing, or next time drivers could get more creative. Chucking an inexistant errant drain lid for example?

Seriously, Rubens ought to get some kind of slap-on-the-wrist sanction.

[tux1234]

Karun Chandok has just posted this on Twitter:

karunchandhok

My good mate Jonathan Williams has just text me to say Rubens' steering still works despite 2 HRTF1 cars running over it - Impressive !!!

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by TwoSheds

If you mean the regulation regarding finishing under the safety car, then it's been in since at least 2005. I can't find any copies of the 2004 or earlier regulations online.

Sometime then because watching the race forum on the Red Button, the BBC team were going on about it as if it were a very recent addition to the rules.

[ukaskew]

This may have been discussed after Quali, but what would have happened if Webber picked up a puncture on his fastest lap in Q3 (managing to complete his lap and return to the pits, for arguments sake)? He tapped the wall and my immediate thought after his fastest lap was "what's the ruling on that if his tyre is knackered"?

Are there any specific penalties in the rules for not using your quali tyres to start the race?

[rocketracer]

Originally Posted by ukaskew

This may have been discussed after Quali, but what would have happened if Webber picked up a puncture on his fastest lap in Q3 (managing to complete his lap and return to the pits, for arguments sake)? He tapped the wall and my immediate thought after his fastest lap was "what's the ruling on that if his tyre is knackered"?

Are there any specific penalties in the rules for not using your quali tyres to start the race?

good question. I think you would have to start from pitlane would you not?

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

Isn't there a rule stating you have to put the steering wheel back on the car after an incident?

I would have thought a grid penalty of 10 places or so at the next race would be sufficient, could have caused a crash/hit a driver/marshal/spectator.

Yes and its there because the marshals have to be able to steer the car off the track. I think the steering wheel was a bit redundant in this case though.

[herowassenna]

Originally Posted by ukaskew

This may have been discussed after Quali, but what would have happened if Webber picked up a puncture on his fastest lap in Q3 (managing to complete his lap and return to the pits, for arguments sake)? He tapped the wall and my immediate thought after his fastest lap was "what's the ruling on that if his tyre is knackered"?

Are there any specific penalties in the rules for not using your quali tyres to start the race?

I also wonder, if for eg, Schumi uses a soft tyre to get pole position etc, comes back in the pits, changes to the harder rubber and sets another flying lap at the end of qualifying but 1/2 sec slower.
Once he returnes to parc ferme, do they have to put the softer tyre back on because it set the quickest time?

[ukaskew]

Originally Posted by herowassenna

I also wonder, if for eg, Schumi uses a soft tyre to get pole position etc, comes back in the pits, changes to the harder rubber and sets another flying lap at the end of qualifying but 1/2 sec slower.
Once he returnes to parc ferme, do they have to put the softer tyre back on because it set the quickest time?

It's the tyre you do your fastest lap on, not the tyre you finish quali on, so that's not a problem as such, they would just put the soft tyres back on for the race.

Nothing I can see that says what would happen if your fastest lap tyres perished though, maybe it's covered by a more general rule.

[marcel82]

Originally Posted by Marbot

Just in case anyone was wondering what happened to Barrichello's steering wheel:

Autosport.

Chandhok also revealed that he dragged Barrichello's errant steering wheel all the way down to the tunnel section of the track.

"It got lodged underneath the car, so I could feel it scraping all the way through Mirabeau. Then the noise stopped and one of the marshals reported back that it fell out of my car in the tunnel. But then Bruno ran over it – so that steering wheel has been well and truly Hispania'd!"

chandhok also says on his twitter he'd received a text message saying it still worked after all that.

[Born Racer]

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/0...rt-by-ferrari/

It's a bit frustrating when drivers say things like this:

“It went better than I thought it would. I lost a lap behind Di Grassi, who perhaps thought he was fighting for the world championship.

Was it a race or not? Coulthard had an over-reaction when he couldn't get past Bernoldi. It seems a slight dig at someone in one of the slowest cars. Alonso was once in a Minardi and I bet he would've fought tooth and nail with a quicker car in such a situation.

[AussieTimmeh]

I agree, but at the same time Alonso is getting absolutely smashed by the Italian media about his performance in the Ferrari all weekend and I can understand that he would be keen to point out all the things that worked against him and be frustrated by them.

[Born Racer]

It just seems silly to criticise someone for trying to race you, as if somehow di Grassi is not worthy of that right because he's in a Virgin.

[Schummy]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

It just seems silly to criticise someone for trying to race you, as if somehow di Grassi is not worthy of that right because he's in a Virgin.

Nowadays virgins always seem to be in the losing side.

[Born Racer]

Re-watched the race last night and was struck by how much F1 cars are so great to watch wind their way around this circuit. None of the other 'street' circuits in F1 come anywhere close. The speed on the approach to Massenet and the ferocity of them whizzing through the tunnel are sights to behold. Plus, you have iconic corners like the Grand Hotel hairpin.