[WEC Race] 2023 Round 5 - 6 Hours of Monza [RACE THREAD]

[GT6]

shame for the number 8, but at least they left the top three out of the silly penalties.

[veeten]

Let's face it, #8 had a very bad day... and it just keeps getting worse.

[Gerard C]

Paratonnerre a m**de I'd say… One brings all the troubles on its head that's why its good to have two cars.

[Adam43]

A look at the lap time spread of LMP2

Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 20	Top 50	Top 100	Laps	Pro/Am
1	31 Team WRT	1:40.714	1:41.065	1:41.394	1:41.840	179
2	28 JOTA	1:40.915	1:41.242	1:41.532	1:41.895	193
3	41 Team WRT	1:40.957	1:41.306	1:41.559	1:41.911	192
4	36 Alpine Elf Team	1:40.683	1:41.080	1:41.466	1:41.915	192
5	63 Prema Racing	1:40.902	1:41.289	1:41.576	1:41.954	192
6	22 United Autosports	1:40.892	1:41.225	1:41.566	1:41.984	192
7	23 United Autosports	1:41.332	1:41.550	1:41.757	1:42.010	192
8	9 Prema Racing	1:40.688	1:41.274	1:41.613	1:42.033	191
9	34 Inter Europol Competition	1:41.325	1:41.541	1:41.721	1:42.073	192
10	35 Alpine Elf Team	1:41.226	1:41.750	1:42.030	1:42.467	192

And I thought Hypercar was close.

Battle included - podium finishers and #31 which led near the end and went out late. A reminder that this only shows the battle between these four other cars may have led early on, but aren't included here.

[Adam43]

Above is a comparison of some key drivers in GTEAm, but I didn't show the cars. Here is the usual table and chart for the whole class.

Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 20	Top 50	Top 100	Laps
1	77 Dempsey - Proton Racing Porsche	1:47.122	1:47.348	1:47.520	1:47.883	185
2	60 Iron Lynx Porsche	1:47.124	1:47.326	1:47.535	1:47.885	185
3	33 Corvette Racing Chevrolet	1:47.083	1:47.414	1:47.670	1:48.056	184
4	56 Project 1 - AO Porsche	1:46.863	1:47.293	1:47.679	1:48.380	183
5	86 GR Racing Porsche	1:47.158	1:47.520	1:47.767	1:48.084	184
6	83 Richard Mille AF Corse Ferrari	1:47.096	1:47.418	1:47.800	1:48.327	183
7	85 Iron Dames Porsche	1:47.411	1:47.661	1:47.814	1:48.141	184
8	54 AF Corse Ferrari	1:47.434	1:47.708	1:48.018	1:48.491	180
9	21 AF Corse Ferrari	1:47.953	1:48.175	1:48.476	1:48.935	182
10	25 ORT by TF Aston Martin	1:47.985	1:48.276	1:48.591	1:48.962	183
11	57 Kessel Racing Ferrari	1:49.994	1:50.642	1:51.324	NA	70
12	777 D'Station Racing Aston Martin	1:49.805	NA	NA	NA	7

I think you can tell the cars that struggle with the bronze drivers.

The charts are everything and just the best car from each manufacturer.

On that Porsche looked the business at Monza. Corvette hampered by the success ballast they had.

[RL17]

Originally Posted by veeten

Let's face it, #8 had a very bad day... and it just keeps getting worse.

Not that bad - 777 had a very bad day

3 penalties and still in points and 23 in lead of championship - could have been a lot worse.

Do Toyota run power limits margin a lot closer to max than others. Final penalty was a very light - broke rules for 2nd time in race - should have been a DQ (much worse than a bit of excessive wear on a scrub plate - different rule set yes).

It also sends a signal that cars can go over power threshold once in a race without penalties- could be for a critical position change etc etc

Do those power figures get released in other stats?

[Adam43]

The penalty seemed proportional. Or even harsh! And in no way does it send a signal you can chose to do it - it was easily noticed! If it was prolonged and helped with an overtake then it would be worse, just like track limits.

Surely the excessive wear on the plank is worse. It can be for being too low, which helps you all race. This was two very discrete moments!

The data will make it obvious if it was intentional or a glitch.and the severity.

They don’t release the data. There is a lot of it and there is no point. They released the important part of it - twice in 6 hours. I’m going to guess it happened for a very short period while the electronics caught up so twice in 21,657 seconds, might be a better way of thinking about it.

[Gerard C]

Originally Posted by Adam43

This was two very discrete moments!
They don’t release the data. There is a lot of it and there is no point. They released the important part of it - twice in 6 hours. I’m going to guess it happened for a very short period while the electronics caught up so twice in 21,657 seconds, might be a better way of thinking about it.

Given the result in penalty, not worth. What is strange is that they've been warned the first time. Another secret or just an electronic incident? Again, we'll never know methinks.

[veeten]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Surely the excessive wear on the plank is worse. It can be for being too low, which helps you all race. This was two very discrete moments!

Just ask Penske Porsche about that. That penalty at post race inspection at Watkins Glen was a doozy. Not only cost them the win, but dropped them to the back of the finishing grid.

[Gerard C]

Rules are rules. Must apply even if it's not a real advantage, its written in the texts. They all agreed the rules and walk on the tight rope. This is racing.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by veeten

Just ask Penske Porsche about that. That penalty at post race inspection at Watkins Glen was a doozy. Not only cost them the win, but dropped them to the back of the finishing grid.

That’ll be why that example was mentioned!

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Above is a comparison of some key drivers in GTEAm, but I didn't show the cars. Here is the usual table and chart for the whole class.

Average Lap time

I think you can tell the cars that struggle with the bronze drivers.

The charts are everything and just the best car from each manufacturer.

On that Porsche looked the business at Monza. Corvette hampered by the success ballast they had.

Now the question is "Is it the Vette or that Bronze driver?" I lean toward it is the driver there but maybe PM makes as stable a car as Porsche

[joeb]

Extended highlights are up:

https://youtu.be/LUjR54Hf_dc

[Adam43]

Cool - thanks.

Random unimportant fact: #50 set its fastest top speed on the lap of the race.