Grp C/Grp A/V8SC 'Where are they now?' continued...

[GTRMagic]

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[GTRMagic]

I always wondered what happened to Mr Waldock's Playscape Sierra...

A Ruapuna Club meeting in 2006 provides the answer.....

[Rob Bailey]

What happened to the John Clinton Jaguar XJS Group A car,it raced maybe once at a NSW enduro,at the end of the Group A period?

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by Rob Bailey

What happened to the John Clinton Jaguar XJS Group A car,it raced maybe once at a NSW enduro,at the end of the Group A period?

Died from chronic oil leaks?? No eye deer Rob, but good to see you on the "other" great Motorsport forum

[holden51]

Originally Posted by racer69

Ok a tough one;

One of the HDT A9X's went to New Zealand at the end of 1979 to run in some races over there. Brock drove it at a meeting, Jim Richards piloted it at another meeting or two (Graeme Whincup's Monza was over there as well). Which Torana was sent over there, one of the Bathurst winners? Harvey's car?

This car is still here in NZ it was run in a class over here called super gt until the wner upgraded to an 07 camaro. It has since been since running in some classic meetings.

Still running a 308 but dry sumped no other changes... http://www.jri.co.nz/racing.asp photo here...

[Rob Bailey]

It must be around.
I'm on Ferrari Chat Line a lot.
Sorry talking about the XJS.

[jd yort]

Originally Posted by Rob Bailey

What happened to the John Clinton Jaguar XJS Group A car,it raced maybe once at a NSW enduro,at the end of the Group A period?

It wasn't the jag that was shown covered in dust sitting in a shed in AMC a few issues back was it?

[Rob Bailey]

Originally Posted by jd yort

It wasn't the jag that was shown covered in dust sitting in a shed in AMC a few issues back was it?

well that is what I'm thinking.
Looks as if it might have run in other events?
Maybe Sports Sedans or a relay race?
I think Roley Walker Jag built it?

[jd yort]

I vaguely recall seeing that Jag or one similar in a pic from the AROC 6 hr race at Eastern Creek in an old Auto Action.

[GTRMagic]

Mr Tweedie has been trying to sell this car for a while

[David Towe]

It certainly is a quick car but how was the reliability record of the Sierras during their heyday? He's entered Sandown in November with his son in another Sierra.

[GTRMagic]

I presume this car was the 'other' Sierra?

I would doubt that the PJ car cost $365k to build... although the provenance is very good

[chavez]

Originally Posted by David Towe

It certainly is a quick car but how was the reliability record of the Sierras during their heyday? He's entered Sandown in November with his son in another Sierra.

The Seton team always managed to find new ways for their Sierra's to breakdown (especially at Bathurst), but even the most reliable of cars can be dogs in the wrong hands, eg the Mobil BMW M3's.

Although to be fair it wasn't only the Brock team that found the M3 to be an unreliable dog at Bathurst. The JPS team and the B&H team had pretty poor results at Bathurst in the M3.

[holden51]

Originally Posted by chavez

The Seton team always managed to find new ways for their Sierra's to breakdown (especially at Bathurst), but even the most reliable of cars can be dogs in the wrong hands, eg the Mobil BMW M3's.

Although to be fair it wasn't only the Brock team that found the M3 to be an unreliable dog at Bathurst. The JPS team and the B&H team had pretty poor results at Bathurst in the M3.

speaking of the B & H m3's. one turned up at a show over here in NZ on the weekend. if its geniune of course... didnt get to see it in the flesh

http://www.theboss.co.nz/forum/index...req=si&img=885

[David Towe]

The ex Alan Jones/Denny Hulme Bathurst car, the car Denny died in.

[KA]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

I presume this car was the 'other' Sierra?

I would doubt that the PJ car cost $365k to build... although the provenance is very good

Interesting that there seems to be more interest in Group A cars in Australia/NZ than in the UK- didn't another ex-BTCC RS500 (ex-Graham Goode Listerine car I think?) go to Australia a while back?

I guess part of the reason may be that there doesn't seem to be as much opportunity to race them over here, and interest in historic touring cars seems to be skipping a generation from 60's/70's cars to Supertouring- there's a historic ST race planned for one of the major UK historic meets at Silverstone next year...

[chunterer]

Absolutely and there's something inherently wrong there.....

I am sure that if a Group A race got the go ahead many Antipodean owners would be quite tempted to bring their cars over and join the fray. David Towe has 2 such cars off the top of my head? Right David?

Actually now for an outright question!!

David, would you be interested in bringing the JPS BMW's to the Silverstone Classic if an event was organised?

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by chunterer

Actually now for an outright question!!

David, would you be interested in bringing the JPS BMW's to the Silverstone Classic if an event was organised?

I am a mean hand on a polishing rag, know some electrics and grudgingly learning my metric spanners sizes Dave

[David Towe]

Man would I be interested?...hell yes! The trouble is that I seem to have a problem fairly uncommon in motor racing, lack of money. I struggle to get the car to Phillip Island each year let alone Silverstone. The thought of racing there excites me on so many levels and add to that the fact that I haven't seen my home town (Deal in Kent) for 41 years now and you've got some serious desire. Too bad about the lack of money. How much are you willing to pay me to let you use the polishing rag Mick?

[racer2_uk]

Hi KA and all, the championship that would cover the Group "A" RS500 does not allow them to compete, the reason I was given was cost, I feel the real reason is that all the other cars in the class would be beaten and grids would fall due them going elsewhere, their dominance in the day was so great the rules were changed as we all know.

Andy

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by David Towe

Man would I be interested?...hell yes! The trouble is that I seem to have a problem fairly uncommon in motor racing, lack of money. I struggle to get the car to Phillip Island each year let alone Silverstone. The thought of racing there excites me on so many levels and add to that the fact that I haven't seen my home town (Deal in Kent) for 41 years now and you've got some serious desire. Too bad about the lack of money. How much are you willing to pay me to let you use the polishing rag Mick?

$3.50 Dave....is that OK???

(But seriously), if that Black Beauty were to go into a container....count me in

[Average Punter]

Originally Posted by holden51

speaking of the B & H m3's. one turned up at a show over here in NZ on the weekend. if its geniune of course... didnt get to see it in the flesh

http://www.theboss.co.nz/forum/index...req=si&img=885

Good to see NAC can actually take photos of something other than gridgirls...

[Mr Walker]

Originally Posted by David Towe

It certainly is a quick car but how was the reliability record of the Sierras during their heyday? He's entered Sandown in November with his son in another Sierra.

Doesn't this play into the Sierra's hands these days in historic Group A racing? The races are quite short so reliability shouldn't come into it. All you need to do is turn the 'winscreen wiper' knob to full boost...right?

[David Towe]

Originally Posted by Mr Walker

All you need to do is turn the 'winscreen wiper' knob to full boost...right?

What do you do if it rains?

[Sultan]

Originally Posted by Mr Walker

Doesn't this play into the Sierra's hands these days in historic Group A racing? The races are quite short so reliability shouldn't come into it. All you need to do is turn the 'winscreen wiper' knob to full boost...right?

I thougth it was the inboard fire extinguisher knob....