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Old 14 Sep 2008, 14:19 (Ref:2289897)   #201
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I think we should complain more about F1, this is not reason enough to become a little more happy with the category.
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 14:40 (Ref:2289936)   #202
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Here's the catch: as long as each of them are racing against each other, and Raikkonen, Alonso, Hamilton, and Massa are still on the grid, the harder it will be for each of them to capture win number two.
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 14:50 (Ref:2289945)   #203
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And they have all done so this year.
Yeah, I thought about that earlier on. Does anyone know the last time (or ever) we had 3 people on the podium who have only won one race, let alone in the same year?
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 14:57 (Ref:2289952)   #204
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So question has to be asked, is it STR are switched on at present with car setup, or Vettel is a tad special with his ability to feel the car and dial it in? I bet Webber is stoked to have guy that will really push him and development next year. I dont think Webbers pride is so fragile that he will complain if Vettel is quicker, rather he will jsut work harder and dig deeper. Either way, its will be good for RBR
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 14:59 (Ref:2289954)   #205
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 15:15 (Ref:2289974)   #206
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So question has to be asked, is it STR are switched on at present with car setup, or Vettel is a tad special with his ability to feel the car and dial it in?
Both, I think. Unless Bourdais is a tad special too, because he's never been too far away in the past races.

Neither was he today... once he got started.
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 21:04 (Ref:2290303)   #207
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He may have been close on the grid but he was 8/10ths behind on time, Vettel is special, Bourdais is steady.
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 22:18 (Ref:2290376)   #208
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Both, I think. Unless Bourdais is a tad special too, because he's never been too far away in the past races.

Neither was he today... once he got started.
However, i wonder what he would have done today if his car didn't leave him stranded on the starting grid.
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Old 14 Sep 2008, 22:25 (Ref:2290383)   #209
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Bourdais was consistently strong in Champcar over for over 3 years, including 3 championship wins.
I always wondered how strong Champcar was at that time but now I don't. Bourdais is good...

His times in difficult condiditions and earlier in the old car he matched Vettel. Now he has the current STR to his liking he is going to be strong for the rest of the season.
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Old 15 Sep 2008, 00:54 (Ref:2290459)   #210
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Bourdais' fastest race lap was the second fastest lap in the race.
Vettels was the 14th fastest....
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Old 15 Sep 2008, 01:00 (Ref:2290461)   #211
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It was thrilling to see Vettel break into the winners club, but I suspect it will be quite awhile until he sees his next victory. It's good that he is so young.
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Old 15 Sep 2008, 01:02 (Ref:2290462)   #212
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Vettel is more than a one hit wonder- unlike Button who has shown incredible faithfulness to the HondaSquad, has only one win and does not look like he can get more in his position,
Vettel on the other hand has already been pipped to go up the "ladder" within the F1 grid so i see more coming- good on the little guy
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Old 15 Sep 2008, 03:29 (Ref:2290517)   #213
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I too felt really bad for Bourdais,,,what a kick in the family jewels...he must still be seething inside over the bloody bad luck of it all....
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Old 15 Sep 2008, 09:46 (Ref:2290708)   #214
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Vettel aged 21 years and 74 days according to this mornings Metro.
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Old 15 Sep 2008, 11:56 (Ref:2290807)   #215
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Vettel aged 21 years and 74 days according to this mornings Metro.
Not 12 then. It might be the Metro, but I'll assume that is correct:

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2 Fernando Alonso 22 years, 26 days 2003 Hungarian Grand Prix
3 Troy Ruttman 22 years, 80 days 1952 Indianapolis 500
4 Bruce McLaren 22 years, 104 days 1959 United States Grand Prix
5 Lewis Hamilton 22 years, 154 days 2007 Canadian Grand Prix
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8 Jacky Ickx 23 years, 188 days 1968 French Grand Prix
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I wonder how long before Button can remove his name from the list, or will he stay on it forever?
2 years, 7 months, 23 days.
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Old 29 Mar 2009, 08:24 (Ref:2427755)   #217
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Didn't expect to see that name appear for a second time. Well done JB.
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Old 29 Mar 2009, 08:35 (Ref:2427777)   #218
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Curious.. Button is off now.. how do people rate Jarno's chances now? I think the Toyotas can win races this year.
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Old 29 Mar 2009, 15:50 (Ref:2428202)   #219
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I am starting to think that Button is never going to make it out of this club.
I don't think i have ever been happier to be wrong,
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I just wish Heidfeld was already a member.

It will be tremendously sad if he doesn't get at least one.
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I just wish Heidfeld was already a member.

It will be tremendously sad if he doesn't get at least one.

He has been my favorite driver since he drove for Prost in 2000. If he doesn't get one.., well. as they say, life isn't fair.
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Yup.

He grabbed my attention when he was battling with JPM in '98. He was distinctly impressive in 2000 (one of his best years, IMO). Whilst Schumacher M is the only driver in F1 I have ever been a full on fan of, I've always had a soft spot for Nick since '98.

Whilst it is looking like he's likely missed the boat in WDC terms, I am holding onto the hope that BMW will give him a long overdue win.
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I hadn't seen this thread before, it's excellent

To summarise...

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1 Luigi Fagioli *Alfa Romeo1951 French GP, Reims-Gueux
2 Piero TaruffiFerrari1952 Swiss GP, Bremgarten
3 Luigi Musso *Ferrari1956 Argentinian GP, Buenos Aires
4 Joakim BonnierBRM1959 Dutch GP, Zandvoort
5 Giancarlo BaghettiFerrari1961 French GP, Reims-Gueux
6 Innes IrelandLotus Climax1961 United States GP, Watkins Glen
7 Lorenzo BandiniFerrari1964 Austrian GP, Zeltweg Airfield
8 Richie GintherHonda1965 Mexican GP, Mexico City
9 Ludovico ScarfiottiFerrari1966 Italian GP, Monza
10 Peter GethinBRM1971 Italian GP, Monza
11 François CevertTyrrell Ford1971 United States GP, Watkins Glen
12 Jean-Pierre BeltoiseBRM1972 Monaco GP, Monte Carlo
13 Carlos PaceBrabham Ford1975 Brazilian GP, Interlagos
14 Jochen MassMcLaren Ford1975 Spanish GP, Montjuïc
15 Vittorio BrambillaMarch Ford1975 Austrian GP, Österreichring
16 Gunnar NillsonLotus Ford1977 Belgian GP, Zolder
17 Alessandro NanniniBenetton Ford1989 Japanese GP, Suzuka
18 Jean AlesiFerrari1995 Canadian GP, Montréal
19 Olivier PanisLigier Mugen-Honda1996 Monaco GP, Monte Carlo
20 Jarno TrulliRenault2004 Monaco GP, Monte Carlo
21 Robert KubicaBMW Sauber2008 Canadian GP, Montréal
22 Heikki KovalainenMcLaren Mercedes2008 Hungarian GP, Hungaroring
23 Sebastian VettelToro Rosso Ferrari2008 Italian GP, Monza
* shared victory

I'm glad to say that out of the four drivers from above who are still competing in F1 (Trulli, Kubica, Kovalainen and Vettel), all of them have a chance of escaping from the "one hit wonder" list in this season. Kovalainen is possibly the driver who will struggle the most to achieve this.

I'm also glad to say that we should also be welcoming some new drivers into the list very soon, albeit temporarily. Glock, Rosberg, Heidfeld and perhaps Webber have reasonable chances; but unless they suddenly find some unexpected good form, I can't see the likes of Piquet or Bourdais challenging for victory.
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