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Old 14 Mar 2024, 17:48 (Ref:4201249)   #2301
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they talk this for years and nobody really shoves up

why would they come in a declining national series ??
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Old 14 Mar 2024, 17:54 (Ref:4201250)   #2302
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People often mention crossovers and suvs but is there a large enough intersection between people that want to buy one and would be impressed by seeing one race? Personally I don't see the connection. As said elsewhere if it was that simple then the truck series in the USA and Australia would be far more popular than NASCAR and Supercars.

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Old 14 Mar 2024, 17:54 (Ref:4201251)   #2303
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I think what he means is that if Unimog, or some other new manufacturer, wanted to run a team then TOCA could easily extend the 24 limit. That would be harder to accommodate if all 32 spaces were already taken.
Certainly hope so.

I guess if there are ‘only’ three seasons left of NGTC as we know it (or rather two winters with this year effectively set) then the cars / models we have now will be here to the end of it and it’s unlikely we’ll see anything new until then.
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Old 14 Mar 2024, 17:58 (Ref:4201252)   #2304
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I think what he means is that if Unimog, or some other new manufacturer, wanted to run a team then TOCA could easily extend the 24 limit. That would be harder to accommodate if all 32 spaces were already taken.

I think he could also allow a few one car teams in to test the water
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Old 14 Mar 2024, 18:17 (Ref:4201257)   #2305
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I wonder if someone will test the waters with a crossover before the rule change comes in or if this will be status quo in terms of what's on the grid and no one tries to introduce a new car to the series before then because of the costs.
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Old 14 Mar 2024, 19:02 (Ref:4201260)   #2306
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I wonder if someone will test the waters with a crossover before the rule change comes in or if this will be status quo in terms of what's on the grid and no one tries to introduce a new car to the series before then because of the costs.

That is the worry. Perhaps they should have thought of this before they announced planned new regs
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Old 14 Mar 2024, 20:33 (Ref:4201269)   #2307
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Old 14 Mar 2024, 23:06 (Ref:4201282)   #2308
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Excelr8 Motorsport-1Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 Hyundai i30 Fastback N PerformancePearsonConfirmed for 2 years in press release (24&25)
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Excelr8 Motorsport-3Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 Hyundai i30 Fastback N PerformanceChiltonConfirmed in Press Release
Excelr8 Motorsport-4Bristol Street Motors with EXCELR8 Hyundai i30 Fastback N PerformanceHalsteadConfirmed in Press Release
Alliance Racing-1NAPA Racing UKFord Focus STSutton Confirmed in Press Release
Alliance Racing-2NAPA Racing UKFord Focus STCammish Confirmed in Press Release
Alliance Racing-3NAPA Racing UKFord Focus STRowbottom Confirmed in Press Release
Alliance Racing-4NAPA Racing UKFord Focus STOsborne Confirmed in Press Release
West Surrey Racing-1Team BMWBMW 330e M SportTurkingtonDiscussed his 2024 aspirations in interview
West Surrey Racing-2Team BMWBMW 330e M SportMorgan? 
West Surrey Racing-3Team BMWBMW 330e M Sport??? 
West Surrey Racing-4Laser Tools Racing with MB MotorsportBMW 330e M SportHillConfirmed in Press Release
Speedworks Motorsport-1Toyota Gazoo Racing UKToyota Corolla GR Sport WatsonConfirmed in Press Release
Speedworks Motorsport-2Toyota Gazoo Racing UKToyota Corolla GR SportHuff?Team stated they are evaluating the option
Speedworks Motorsport-3LKQ Euro Car Parts with SYNETIQToyota Corolla GR SportCookConfirmed in Press Release
Speedworks Motorsport-4LKQ Euro Car Parts with SYNETIQToyota Corolla GR Sport MoffatConfirmed in Press Release
Power Maxed Racing-1CarStore Power Maxed RacingVauxhall AstraTaylor-SmithConfirmed in Press Release (24&25)
Power Maxed Racing-2CarStore Power Maxed RacingVauxhall AstraDobleConfirmed in Press Release
Power Maxed Racing-3CarStore Power Maxed RacingVauxhall Astra??? 
Restart Racing-1Restart RacingCupra León SmileyConfirmed in Press Release
Restart Racing-2Restart RacingCupra León SumptonConfirmed in Press Release
Aiden Moffat Racing-1Team HARD.Cupra LeónDeLeonConfirmed in Press Release
Aiden Moffat Racing-2Team HARD.Cupra León???Confirmed in Press Release
CBM Racing-1????????? 
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?????????HamiltonSpoke to ITV stating he is working on a deal
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Old 15 Mar 2024, 11:11 (Ref:4201309)   #2309
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From my experience on doing the school runs, the SUVs seem to me to be more often driven by women, whilst more men have estate cars or saloons.

A bit of a sweeping generalisation, yes, but even from casual conversation I find its usually women or older drivers who prefer the 'higher up seating position'.

Yes women enjoy the BTCC too, but I wonder if there's less of a correlation with liking SUVs than in the general population.
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Old 15 Mar 2024, 11:23 (Ref:4201311)   #2310
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That is the worry. Perhaps they should have thought of this before they announced planned new regs
With NGTC TOCA built their own Avensis with GPRM to test the regs in private (Kelvin Burt, Marino Franchitti, Tim Harvey and others drove it before James Thompson did in FP1 and FP2 in publicat the finals Day Brands 2010) against the S200s. Before that they allowed NGTC engines to run for a year in S2000 cars before the rules switch.

Logic says they'll repeat this to compare the performance of a ''generic Typical potential car'' but I think the new cars would still have the current Hybrid powertrain just in different shells/subframes so no extensive testing needed really.

Again TOCA and Speedworks tested a hybrid Corolla with Darren Turner and Andrew Jordan in private before taking it public. TOCA would do this again with any ruleset replacement.

Matt and Jason aren't that busy these days

Anyways, WSR are selling damaged race-used panels and old memorabilia on their ebay shop now so must be looking for a few quid.

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Old 15 Mar 2024, 11:45 (Ref:4201313)   #2311
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That’s fine, but the worry is it will deter other makes/manufacturers appearing until the new rules come in. We could do with a bit more variety right now
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Old 15 Mar 2024, 12:58 (Ref:4201319)   #2312
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That’s fine, but the worry is it will deter other makes/manufacturers appearing until the new rules come in. We could do with a bit more variety right now
sounds like you havent read the interview
he says the current cars will be updated
so they are not completely new regulations
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Old 15 Mar 2024, 13:52 (Ref:4201325)   #2313
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sounds like you havent read the interview
he says the current cars will be updated
so they are not completely new regulations

Yes I have. And my point stands. It would be better for new makes to come in before they are updated
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It's a bit uninspiring. When they said they were doing a special 100th anniversary livery I was expecting something more that just "100 years of" in small text before 'Bristol Street'
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Or need some space in the workshop...
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It's a bit uninspiring. When they said they were doing a special 100th anniversary livery I was expecting something more that just "100 years of" in small text before 'Bristol Street'

I wonder why there was no mention of Halstead or no inclusion of his car?
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I wonder why there was no mention of Halstead or no inclusion of his car?
He is meant to be racing in a completely different livery - basically an XXL version of a CrazyKart - and I would assume Halstead + sponsors want to give that livery its own dedicated announcement.
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It's a bit uninspiring. When they said they were doing a special 100th anniversary livery I was expecting something more that just "100 years of" in small text before 'Bristol Street'
Yeah, not bad but personally think last year’s flowed better and the sponsors were a bit less cluttered. Cool to see a semi-large / public launch event!
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New Exclr8 livery

It's a bit uninspiring. When they said they were doing a special 100th anniversary livery I was expecting something more that just "100 years of" in small text before 'Bristol Street'
Yes, for all the teasing I did expect something slightly more special for BSM's centenary. But IMO what they've gone for is a nice livery, a reimagining of what they had last year.
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Or need some space in the workshop...
Indeed. One of the few teams with a ‘spare’ car they could use for this season.
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RML, Cosworth, ITV and TOCA's own contract are all up for renewal at the end of 2026.
From that list the only one I’d be concerned about losing is ITV. If they decided to step away, we’d be in a bad place as spectators.
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It's a bit uninspiring. When they said they were doing a special 100th anniversary livery I was expecting something more that just "100 years of" in small text before 'Bristol Street'
Looks a bit BMW-y with the colours on the side. Nice to see a Team Dynamics logo on the car!

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Alan Gow must be so comforted to get all of this advice
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I wonder why there was no mention of Halstead or no inclusion of his car?
Nick’s livery will be totally different to the other three so will be released at a seperate event
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