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Two were at Bathurst in 1987, #1 and #1T, they wanted to race them both, but the ARDC wouldn't accept their second entry (they only entered one car, thinking that their WTCC entry accounted for the other entry, not so said the ARDC).
Thomas Lindstrom ran one in the 1988 ETCC, and Nick May ran another in the BTCC. Whether they were the two Imberti cars, or new cars..? Perhaps chunterer, KA or Jesper can help Mike Quinn wanted to run one circa-1989 as well. |
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Quite why the Maserati couldnt have had the same amount of love applied, to be much quicker than it ended up when here, is interesting... |
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Speaking of a Rouse kit car....
WOW!! Now even the development series tail gunners seem to be able to do 15's on their ear.... |
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Once I had a link to a Maserati page with chassis numbers for the Biturbo WTCC and assorted Italian runners, but can't find it now. The page had no info on the Trident Motorsport BTCC car or the Thomas Lindström ETCC car, both of 1988, so to the best of my believe is that both teams build their own cars. Lindström and his father build their own Volvo 240 Turbos, before Thomas was enrolled into the 1985 Eggenberger camp and to my best believe (nothing else, sadly) his 1987 WTCC Alfa 75 Turbo was also a Swedish build. The Marlboro Biturbo (was supposed to be two early on) of 1988 ETCC fame was a Swedish product and when the ETCC stopped, STCC awaited: http://www.teambild.se/arkiv/details...75&mode=search Jesper Last edited by Jesper OH; 28 Dec 2008 at 09:48. |
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Of the Bathurst drivers, only Bartlett lacked experience in the car, Hahne & Giacomelli had been driving it all year. Maybe it was more a case of Hahne setting the #1 car up properly as he knew car & track, while Bartlett could learn the car and Giacomelli the track in #1T (not that it helped Bruno) On what happened to the ProTeam/Imberti Maserati's (and others), they must have had 3 of them in 1987, as three were entered for the second WTCC round at Jarama, though none qualified. |
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The second car photo was of Bathurst '87 and by this stage owned by John Giddings. It was the first sierra home and the first to finish a Bathurst. It was used by Colin Bond to run the ATCC in '88 and win AMSCAR. It was then campaigned by Giddings and Stewart for Bondyingain in '88 and finished 5th. After Bathurst '88 it sat under Bruce Stewarts Clothes line for awhile and was sold to a privateer The second |
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Dont know why post went up unfinished? The top car was the spare shell that was used after the Sandown rollover. I have a RCN with a workshop photo of the 34 & 35 cars and the painted spare in the corner. The two first cars are are identifiable from the third by the cage configuration. This replacement car debuted at Bathurst '87, matched the pace of the Texaco cars and led for quite awhile until the alternator charge wire came loose and Mad Andy got caught in pits by the pace car debarckle. He passed the black car going up the hill so anyone that says Aussies couldnt match the pace of the European cars in race trim are mistaken. Miedecke says to this day this was the best sierra he ever drove! It was lost in the lakeside BBQ. The second car/photo was of Bathurst '87 and by this stage owned by John Giddings. It was the first sierra home and the first to finish a Bathurst. It was used by Colin Bond to run the ATCC in '88 and win AMSCAR. It was then campaigned at the enduros by Giddings and Stewart for Bondy again in '88 and finished 5th at the hill. After Bathurst '88 it sat under Bruce Stewarts clothes line for awhile and was sold to a privateer who peeled the Caltex signage off and raced it once or twice in '89 and has been parked up ever since. Its now undergoing a light restoration to bring it up to race conditon and be raced again in historic Group A. The rolled shell was bought by Mike Ceveri and converted to sports sedan. He says the roll cage was still straight and they pulled the body back true around it. The front and alot of the floor and quarters were removed and flared. The car was very quick with Mike driving. Don Smith told me, as he was retiring at the end of '87 he wanted to retain the #35 car but he rolled it. The original plan was that the third car was to be readied for Midecke for the '88 season or (as it turned out) used for a spare for '87. He also told me he supplied/sourced the first two shells for DJR from Rouse. He's sure he brought in 5 shells late in '86. This would make sense as he had 3 and DJR 2. RCN has the OXO cars displayed at Adelaide (I think) in '86 and Don believes they predate the Johnson cars? Great photos GTR!! Where did you get the #34 photo?? |
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The people that were at Winton and drove the cars were Brock, Jones Barry Sheene, Barry lake (journo) and Mark Larkham driving anything but a formula ford for the first time. Some good photos of inside as well and looks almost certain the cars had aluminium cages. Thge article quotes Alan Gow as manager of Brock's Austech company yet they were always entered by Advantage Racing??? |
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Both ex Wolf cars were used at Bathurst in 1989, one as the # 20 Jones / Hulme car and one as 20T, back when T cars were allowed. The Wolf car entered at Bathurst in 1988 by Mark Petch had been used in that year's ETCC, Bathurst was it first Australasian race.
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I meant in terms of Grice running #2 all year on his Commodore, yet Imberti wanted (expected) to run #1 & #2 on their entries at Bathurst. It was interesting that Grice ran #3 at Wellington, where there were no Maserati's
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Would the maserati be the most unusual & rarest of the group A cars?
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Hey - what ever happened to the various Commodores, Perkins built IIRC, that were raced under the "Indonesian Racing Team" by Tommy Suharto, I mean Hutomo MP. I think there were some Reynard F-Holdens there too. Last edited by Falcadore; 30 Dec 2008 at 04:53. |
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