2015 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour: 6-8 February

[rich07]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

What about the bloke hanging from the catch fence??

That's Florian Strauss

In all seriousness all they'd do is fine the team and Nissan will probably cover that.

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by Beryl

I'd say he nailed it.

Yeah, looks like the front of the Nissan crossed the control line barely behind the back end of the Audi. Lucky timing... or timed to absolute perfection.

[D.R.T.]

That is so close - you cant definitely say he overlapped.

I just hope the other overlapping penalties were more clear cut.

[msd76]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Another absolute great event - thoroughly enjoyable.

Too many cautions as many have stated - is code 60 an option? That said, the majority of the crashes werent to do with speed differentials of production cars.

As for the overlap - sitting just past the start finish line it was tight but cant say he definitely overlapped before the start finish line.

The video below contains the last 2 restarts for everyone to have a look & make their own mind up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je72o7ywW4U

I think there was an over lap although I'm going to say two but's, 1 I haven't seen the other that were ping to judge side by side to see if race control was consistence. And 2. that GTR had so much of a power advantage it was always going to run down who ever was in front of him.

[GTRMagic]

From Mrs Klimenko's FB...

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Ferrari333SP

I wouldn't have an issue with that; 40-50 GT3 cars on this track would be absolutely mega

I am not sure you'd get that many...

GT3 in Europe isn't nearly as strong as it was two or three years ago, so there is actually less potential for guest entries from over here. For North American entrants, on the other hand, their own season will either be already under way by the time of Bathurst (IMSA) or just a few weeks away (PWC).

And then there's the talk about Tony Quinn creating an Australian endurance series. Most of the internationals definitely won't stick around for that, so you need local entrants to make up the numbers and that won't work if you give the finger to them at your biggest event of the year.

I guess they could cut the production cars, but they'll need to keep at least the Porsches, probably also the GT4s and the tube framers...

[Disraeli Eers]

Wow, just caught up with the end after going to bed at 3 hour left mark. What awesome and respectful driving right on the limit.

I, like everyone else, just wish there had been fewer safety cars. The race never got into a good flow.

I think at a track like Bathurst you have to come up with something other than fukl course cautions for every stopped car.

What a start of 2015 for Nismo.

[TWRv12]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

I am not sure you'd get that many...

GM at supposed to be thinking about bringing the Corvette. Audi, Porsche, Lambo, Ford, Ferrari are all due to release new models

Bathurst 12 Hour event thrives despite collision with V8 Supercars

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/motor...08-13941m.html

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by TWRv12

GM at supposed to be thinking about bringing the Corvette. Audi, Porsche, Lambo, Ford, Ferrari are all due to release new models

There is no official GT3 Vette, so if anything they'll bring the Caddy. No confirmed plans for a GT3 Ford either and the rest are just replacing existing cars. If they didn't come so far, there is no certainty that they'll go now, at least not with a works team.

[Intimidator]

Is the race available on demand on youtube or somewhere else?

[TRspitfirefan]

Thoroughly enjoyed the race!
Awesome track + Awesome cars = A really great racing event.
Seven different makes in the top Seven positions is unreal! Plus if the Ice Coffee Porsche had not ran into problems late in the race, we might have had eight.

Regarding the abundance of Safety cars; I think perhaps if the penalties for aggressive driving were more strict, we would see far more green flag racing.
Here in the States, we have the same problem. Especially since the "avoidable contact" penalty was reduced from stop+60, to a simple drive through/stop & go.

[Bodysnatcher]

Originally Posted by Intimidator

Is the race available on demand on youtube or somewhere else?

full replay should be available on the Bathurst 12h site
(certainly the first 6 is)

http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/

[Bodysnatcher]

Originally Posted by TRspitfirefan

Regarding the abundance of Safety cars; I think perhaps if the penalties for aggressive driving were more strict, we would see far more green flag racing.
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Race organisers worldwide have changed operating procedures after the Jules Bianchi incident. Wait and see how much safety car will be used in the coming season in any form of racing.

[Rodger Davies]

Whole race is on the site clock 'watch again' and it offers you a playlist with all four parts.

Tough call for the cameraman at the end, I hope the Bentley onboard is released at some point.

This shows the end of it: http://youtu.be/O4MZYJSsXcQ

Bell definitely went wide, I'm guessing Mucke assisted him.


After the finish, Mucke is clearly missing a piece from the front-right of his Aston, so seems almost certain to me. Was one of Mucke's slightly overaggressive races by my reckoning.

[Lagunaseca_4life]

The only issue I had with the fcy's is that the tow trucks were positioned only in the paddock and had to drive all the way around to the incident.created some lengthy yellows,but still a great race on a great track.

[Greem]

I've seen a couple of photos from the start of the race (well, very early on) from the top of the mountain where there was at least one recovery unit, maybe more.

The problem is that once they've deployed, that's it - they're all down the bottom. Imagine the howls of derision if the SC came out to reposition a tow truck?

[peckstar]

I cant speak for the 12 hour, but would be very suprised if they did not use the same procedure as the v8 race.

There are at least 3 points around the track where they keep the tow trucks/flatbeds and each time one is required they rotate the trucks. thus you see empty ones travelling around the track.

So if the one at the second tow point is required the one from point 1 moves to that vacant position (point 2)

[Hingo]

That's exactly what they did pecky. I was situated at Reid Park and they did it every time a flatbed was called.

[mayhem]

A few pics from early yesterday morning including Sudd's Lambo, and the Ferrari/Aston Crash:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/iwillshootu/

[Greem]

Originally Posted by Hingo

That's exactly what they did pecky. I was situated at Reid Park and they did it every time a flatbed was called.

Excellent - that's what we do here, except we're all on closed circuits with internal/perimeter access roads. The nearest one gets deployed when necessary, but we do have odd occasions when they're all busy and we have to shove/push/pull/drag a busted car out behind the wall and leave it there.

One day, one day... maybe the 1000 in 2016, or the 12Hr in 2017...

[FAS33]

people are complaining that Nissan yesterday that stormed home for its historic win had an unfair advantage, nostalgia much? great drive home by the Japanese samurai!


http://m.speedcafe.com/2015/02/08/ni...hurst-12-hour/

[peckstar]

post in the 12 hour thread , thats what it is for

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by FAS33

people are complaining that Nissan yesterday that stormed home for its historic win had an unfair advantage, nostalgia much? great drive home by the Japanese samurai!


http://m.speedcafe.com/2015/02/08/ni...hurst-12-hour/

would like to see some evidence of the apparently ridiculous claim that "people are complaining...etc" as there is none in the link you included.

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by peckstar

post in the 12 hour thread , thats what it is for

agree, mods could it be merged please?

[trahsub]

Originally Posted by Greem

I've seen a couple of photos from the start of the race (well, very early on) from the top of the mountain where there was at least one recovery unit, maybe more.

The problem is that once they've deployed, that's it - they're all down the bottom. Imagine the howls of derision if the SC came out to reposition a tow truck?

It would be logical that when the next incident occurred, one truck was deployed to the accident and a 2nd truck was deployed back to a staging area at top of mountain. Doesn't seem too difficult to get done, but I guess you would have at speed cars on other part of track trying to make up time, so easier said than done.