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Old 28 Sep 2010, 10:46 (Ref:2765959)   #1
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British Grand Prix 2011 volunteering

Yes - it's that time of the year again.

The MSA has just issued the volunteering forms and guidelines to the various marshalling clubs. The provisional dates are 8/9/10 July, venue Silverstone.

All forms will be available on the BMMC website very shortly - but if you are NOT a BMMC member you must wait for your club to send you the correct form, then return the form to them.
The guidelines are:

1. Marshals to have completed a minimum of 12 marshalling days in the calendar year 2009 to qualify for nomination.
2. Forms must be completed and signed by the official.
3. Incomplete forms may not be considered.
4. Only complete one form if you have marshalled for more than one club. Please list all the details on one form
5. All chief/deputy/assistant chief officials must complete a nomination form.
6. Officials who have become Clerks of the Course and Stewards may submit an application to marshal if their experience in the marshalling grade is still current.
7. Nominations from 'novice' officials will not be accepted.
8. Only the official form should be used.

Remember the forms MUST be returned to your marshalling club - NOT to the MSA.

Your club will do the first filter and then the MSA selection committee will meet in February/March to make the final choice - if, as last year, there are too many volunteers.

Good luck and enjoy the event.
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Old 28 Sep 2010, 10:47 (Ref:2765963)   #2
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OOPs - cut and paste error - should have said "Marshals to have completed a minimum of 12 marshalling days in the calendar year 2010 to qualify for nomination"
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Old 29 Sep 2010, 22:06 (Ref:2766894)   #3
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can i put my bribe in now chris, it was an awesome few days last year
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Old 1 Oct 2010, 08:57 (Ref:2767645)   #4
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Standard question for this time of year, I'm afraid... I've got the events, but need to record the Licence type (Int, Nat A, Nat B) for them - can you help?
  • BTCC - Nat A (I think...)
  • WTCC - Must be Int?
  • FIA GT - Int?
  • Dunlop Great&British - Nat B?
  • Goodwood FoS - Nat A?
  • International GT Open - Must be Int?
  • BGT/F3 - Int or Nat A?

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Old 1 Oct 2010, 09:10 (Ref:2767650)   #5
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Standard question for this time of year, I'm afraid... I've got the events, but need to record the Licence type (Int, Nat A, Nat B) for them - can you help?
  • BTCC - Nat A (I think...)
  • WTCC - Must be Int?
  • FIA GT - Int?
  • Dunlop Great&British - Nat B?
  • Goodwood FoS - Nat A?
  • International GT Open - Must be Int?
  • BGT/F3 - Int or Nat A?

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If you keep your race day programmes you will see the category inside, they always have to print the status inside.

Bladders.........
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Old 1 Oct 2010, 09:41 (Ref:2767657)   #6
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btcc and british gt are both international, toca supports apart from clios are run under nat A and clios nat b

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Old 1 Oct 2010, 10:13 (Ref:2767670)   #7
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Standard question for this time of year, I'm afraid... I've got the events, but need to record the Licence type (Int, Nat A, Nat B) for them - can you help?
  • BTCC - Nat A (I think...)
  • WTCC - Must be Int?
  • FIA GT - Int?
  • Dunlop Great&British - Nat B?
  • Goodwood FoS - Nat A?
  • International GT Open - Must be Int?
  • BGT/F3 - Int or Nat A?

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I have checked my paperwork, and can confirm that WTCC, International GT Open and BGT/F3 meetings at Brands Hatch were all run on International permits.

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Old 1 Oct 2010, 10:31 (Ref:2767674)   #8
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If you keep your race day programmes you will see the category inside, they always have to print the status inside.

Bladders.........
And I keep saying to myself that I need to do that - and everytime, I forget and "file them"!! Next year.....

Thanks for the pointers from the others - form filling is going well.
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Old 1 Oct 2010, 14:02 (Ref:2767757)   #9
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Standard question for this time of year, I'm afraid... I've got the events, but need to record the Licence type (Int, Nat A, Nat B) for them - can you help?
  • BTCC - Nat A (I think...)
  • WTCC - Must be Int?
  • FIA GT - Int?
  • Dunlop Great&British - Nat B?
  • Goodwood FoS - Nat A?
  • International GT Open - Must be Int?
  • BGT/F3 - Int or Nat A?
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Goodwood Festival of Speed is technichally a hill climb and will not count toward your tally of 12 days
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Old 1 Oct 2010, 14:50 (Ref:2767783)   #10
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Goodwood Festival of Speed is technichally a hill climb and will not count toward your tally of 12 days
It doesnt actually say it will not count on the form (that just asks for number of days marshalling at the requested grade - Incident).

As I have more than enough days to qualify from other events (WTCC, BTCC etc), it just gets a cursory mention at the bottom of the list (along with the other events at Crystal Palace and Gurston) to complete the picture of my marshalling this year.

Hopefully, that does not cause a problem and I can still be considered for the event.
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Old 1 Oct 2010, 19:54 (Ref:2767910)   #11
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still doesnt count. (has been asked previous years)

hillclimbs and sprints dont count for the purposes of volunteering for the GP. unfortunatly.
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Old 1 Oct 2010, 20:54 (Ref:2767942)   #12
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Hmmm, I did say I wouldn't volunteer for next year (I did my first GP this year) & leave it until 2012, to keep my interest up but I'm very tempted to apply now!
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Old 1 Oct 2010, 21:20 (Ref:2767955)   #13
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can i put my bribe in now chris, it was an awesome few days last year
Indeed - I hear the flag marshals by you were great fun
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Old 2 Oct 2010, 08:49 (Ref:2768062)   #14
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Old 2 Oct 2010, 09:29 (Ref:2768071)   #15
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Goodwood Festival of Speed is technichally a hill climb and will not count toward your tally of 12 days
Just to confirm that hillclimbs and sprints are classified as 'speed' events and not 'race' therefore are a different discipline (and believe it or not Grands Prix are races!!!!! )
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As I said in post 10 of this thread, the form does not actually directly say that Speed events do not count. It is simply implied by the comment of 'list days at the grade you are applying for'.

Perhaps some clarification could be put on the form for 2012?

As I also said, I have more than enough days elsewhere, but as the form asks for a complete picture, that is what I have given (I will assume that those reading the forms will see enough days at International level circuit events, and leave it at that)
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Old 4 Oct 2010, 16:46 (Ref:2769275)   #17
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All forms will be available on the BMMC website very shortly - but if you are NOT a BMMC member you must wait for your club to send you the correct form, then return the form to them.
The guidelines are:
Are occasional 'best guesses' for status acceptable? e.g. I did a BARC meeting at Silverstone May 8/9th, which included F. Renault. My guess is that it is Nat A, but I'm not sure.

Also, can anyone help me with the following, please:-

Organising club for F1 BGP @ Silverstone
Organising club for F3/GT
Status for 2CV 24 hour
Status for Goodwood revival
Organising club and status for Trucks.
Status for Britcar 24hr

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Old 4 Oct 2010, 16:47 (Ref:2769276)   #18
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The grade that you are applying for I would imagine is track or experienced track...now I'm sure the hillclimb bunch will correct me if I'm wrong, but the grades for sprints and hillclimbs (or speed events)were separate, and therefore wouldn't count towards your application for the track or experienced track position.
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Old 4 Oct 2010, 17:06 (Ref:2769293)   #19
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Just to confirm that hillclimbs and sprints are classified as 'speed' events and not 'race' therefore are a different discipline (and believe it or not Grands Prix are races!!!!! )
I've seen more overtaking at some hill-climbs!(ducks)
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Organising club for F1 BGP @ Silverstone - MSA?
Organising club for F3/GT - BRSCC usually depending on circuit
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Are occasional 'best guesses' for status acceptable? e.g. I did a BARC meeting at Silverstone May 8/9th, which included F. Renault. My guess is that it is Nat A, but I'm not sure.

Also, can anyone help me with the following, please:-

Organising club for F1 BGP @ Silverstone
Organising club for F3/GT
Status for 2CV 24 hour
Status for Goodwood revival
Organising club and status for Trucks.
Status for Britcar 24hr

Thanks
Organising club for F1 BGP @ Silverstone = IMSA / FIA
Organising club for F3/GT BRSCC
Status for 2CV 24 hour INT support NAT A
Status for Goodwood revival INT?
Organising club and status for Trucks. BARC INT NAT A
Status for Britcar 24hr INT support NAT A

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Are occasional 'best guesses' for status acceptable? e.g. I did a BARC meeting at Silverstone May 8/9th, which included F. Renault. My guess is that it is Nat A, but I'm not sure.

Also, can anyone help me with the following, please:-

Organising club for F1 BGP @ Silverstone
Organising club for F3/GT
Organising club and status for Trucks.
The Silverstone BARC meeting in May was run under a National B permit. For the Grand Prix, I always list 'FIA' as the club. Organising clubs for F3/GT meetings are MSVR for Snetterton, Brands and Oulton, BARC for Thruxton and BRSCC everywhere else. The status of truck meetings is National A, with the exception of Thruxton, which would have been run under an International permit on account of the F3s.
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Goodwood Revival is Nat A according to the joining instructions from BARC
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While we were in Edmonton a Canadian marshal expressed an interest in applying for the GP next year. Assuming he is not a Marshals' Club member, who should he return his form to?

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