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Old 3 Jun 2005, 08:05 (Ref:1318729)   #1
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Shane Hmiel fails another drug test

I don't get this. He had to know NASCAR would do random testing on him for quite some time after he failed the first time, so failing once more is just stupid.

SpeedTV story: http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/nascar/17298/
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Old 3 Jun 2005, 08:17 (Ref:1318734)   #2
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well a shame really.

stupid , yes possibly but maybe its not entirely his fault , maybe he has an addiction of some kind and if thats the case then Nascar should be insisting of some form of help for him.

I think he is talented and could have a big future in this sport but he needs help in this situation and hopefully that help will come and he doesnt waste the oppotunity he has.

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Old 3 Jun 2005, 08:42 (Ref:1318752)   #3
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What kind of drug tests are they? For example has he failed it due to (for example) cocaine or due to a cold/flu drug which is on the banned list?
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Old 3 Jun 2005, 10:47 (Ref:1318847)   #4
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As we don't know which drugs were found in his system (performance enhancing or recreational, perscribed or purchased), or whether there are any extenuating personal circusmtances, it's hard to make a full verdict on this. But in genreal, drivers with drug problems shojuld be helped to voercome the problem, but shouldn't be allowed onto the track if tehre is a danger tht it's affecting eprformance (positively or negatively).
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Old 3 Jun 2005, 17:16 (Ref:1319284)   #5
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Bottom line is that he did act stupidly.Shane did know that he was going to be tested,now he is paying the price for his mistake.Nascar gave him a chance and Shane screwed it up.
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Old 9 Jun 2005, 22:36 (Ref:1324404)   #6
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Perhaps his departure will now open up a door for another future star-theres plenty of drivers out there who I'm sure could do the job just as well, if not better.
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 01:33 (Ref:1324469)   #7
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I havent followed this really close at all but what has been his punishment ?

Has he simply just lost his job ?
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 04:49 (Ref:1324511)   #8
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I believe it`s an indefinte ban.

One chance was enough, time to give the seat to a more deserving candidate.

Them`s the breaks, IMO. Harsh I know, but this is professional sports with lots of talent on your heels looking for a good ride.
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 01:13 (Ref:1325193)   #9
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so he is not aloowed to race Nascar ever again ?

wow that is harsh I hope that has no negative effects on him personally.

I would have thought a year or 2 ban would be good for him to get the help he needs and then if he proves himself clean he can try and come back.

problem is he is now tarnished and teams would be a bit hesitant to give him a go in case it all goes pear shape again.

well whatever happens I hope he works himself out for the better.
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 01:55 (Ref:1325209)   #10
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so he is not aloowed to race Nascar ever again ?
Word from other racing sites is that Nascar has the option to suspend him permanently, but has not as of yet.
Shane is appealing and wants to be reinstated ASAP.
So, the story will continue.
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 05:01 (Ref:1325342)   #11
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Ok thanks for the update 2112
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 09:46 (Ref:1325466)   #12
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Does anyone know the nature of the test - which drugs were foud in his system? Until we know that there's no way of commenting on whether the decision is fair. There could be several drivers racing under the influence of the same thing who havne't been tested once, let alone twice.
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 10:01 (Ref:1325474)   #13
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You see, that`s a problem.
There needs to be consistency. Around these parts if the most popular racer would get a fine or a suspension, millions of $$$$ are at stake.

And fan dollars. I would like to know more myself.

All sites point to Puff, the Magic Dragon, BTW.
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 11:36 (Ref:1325518)   #14
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That's the problem then. Alcohol suppliers can't have the NASCAR fans finding out of another substance which is safer and purer.
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Old 11 Jun 2005, 23:29 (Ref:1325979)   #15
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Can you say "WIN FUEL" sniff sniff.
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Old 13 Jun 2005, 20:12 (Ref:1327648)   #16
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jackman u r funnie i heard it might be steroids or a leafy substance of some type.personally as a "puffer" myself he dont need to be doing that during the season, not as a driver thats to much risk and responsiblity and i liked that guy to !!!\
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Old 19 Jun 2005, 01:36 (Ref:1332607)   #17
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Its not even his safety, its the safety of others what is the FIA'a policy on it?
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Old 20 Jun 2005, 22:23 (Ref:1335197)   #18
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Shane Hmiel is an idiot. He had his second chance and he blew it. I hope he never races again as an example to others. Professional athletes get away with things like this far too often as it is. The person I feel the worst for is his dad, Steve, who gave his son a lot of help only to have him be stupid TWICE.

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Old 22 Jun 2005, 21:38 (Ref:1337698)   #19
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NASCAR has said Hmiel be banned until 2007 atleast. I hope they ban him forever.
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Shane Hmiel is an idiot.
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