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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:30 (Ref:1032160)   #1
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2005 Grid

The silly season seems to be taking shape, any predicitions for the the '05 grid?

Mine are as follows...

Ferrari
M.Schumacher
R.Barrichello

Williams
M.Webber
J.Villenueve

McLaren
K.Raikkonen
J.Montoya

BAR
J.Button
A.Davidson

Renault
F.Alonso
J.Trulli

Jaguar
D.Coulthard
N.Heidfeld

Toyota
R.Schumacher
D.Coulthard

Sauber
F.Massa
C.Klien

Jordan
T.Sato
Z.Baumgartner

Minardi
G.Bruni
Pay Driver

What do you think?
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:33 (Ref:1032163)   #2
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Whats the scoop on Webber, will he be in a Williams before the end of the year?
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:37 (Ref:1032168)   #3
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Wouldnt be at all surprised, the word is their gonna use the pay out from ralfs insurance to buy out his 04 contract. The grid above is for 05 tho, and i think its a safe bet we'll see him in a williams by then anyway.
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:42 (Ref:1032174)   #4
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Ferrari:
M Schumacher
Barrichello

Renault:
Trulli
Alonso

BAR:
Button
Sato

Williams:
Webber
Fisichella

McLaren:
Räikkönen
Montoya

Sauber:
Massa
Davidson

Toyota:
R Schumacher
da Matta

Jordan:
Glock
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Jaguar:
Heidfeld
Wirdheim

Minardi:
$+skills
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:45 (Ref:1032175)   #5
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Noticed theres no DC on your list? I didnt put Sato in the second BAR seat coz i believe they are getting extremely frustrated at his inability to get the job done. Also i can see Fisi getting the second seat at Williams. Dont ask why, i just think if a top team were gonna hire him they'd have done it by now. He's destined to be a midfielder for ever in my eyes.

Interesting you put wirdheim in the jag, forgot about him.
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:48 (Ref:1032177)   #6
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I didnt put Sato in the second BAR seat coz i believe they are getting extremely frustrated at his inability to get the job done.
They aren't.

Well, not in the sense that he'll lose his seat.
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:49 (Ref:1032178)   #7
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Rob DC will be busy driving the toyota and JAGUAR

Jaguar
D.Coulthard
N.Heidfeld

Toyota
R.Schumacher
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:50 (Ref:1032181)   #8
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Maybe not, but if i was DR then i would seriously think about replacing him. He's clearly not upto buttons standards in the races, if they had another points scorer in the team they'd be clear second in the constructors by now.
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 11:52 (Ref:1032182)   #9
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Hehe, sorry meant to put da matta in the second toyota seat.
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 18:07 (Ref:1032562)   #10
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Ferrari
M.Schumacher
R.Barrichello

Williams
M.Webber
A.Davidson

McLaren
K.Raikkonen
J.Montoya

BAR
J.Button
T.Sato

Renault
F.Alonso
J.Trulli

Jaguar
D.Coulthard
B.Wirdheim

Toyota
R.Schumacher
C.da Matta

Sauber
F.Massa
G.Fisichella

Jordan
N.Heidfeld
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 18:54 (Ref:1032587)   #11
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Williams
M.Webber
M.Hakkinen
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 20:16 (Ref:1032621)   #12
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Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
There is absolutely no chance Mika Hakkinen will be in F1 next year
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 21:04 (Ref:1032644)   #13
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Maybe not, but if i was DR then i would seriously think about replacing him. He's clearly not upto buttons standards in the races, if they had another points scorer in the team they'd be clear second in the constructors by now.
Well the engine has let Sato down many times this year. Sato has only 1 full season in F1 to Buttons 4.
There is no reason to let Sato go.
They would probably be better running Sato and Davidson and letting Button go.
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 21:47 (Ref:1032669)   #14
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How on earth can you say that they would be better off without Button? He has almost singlehandedly put them in the position they are in the championship and is the the best of the rest behind the red cars. Besides i know sato's engine failures have been unfortunate but after so many you have got to begin to think that it is more to do with him being too harsh on the car and not nursing his engine when needs be. You can only have so many 'coincidences'..and how many pts has he thrown away this year..his lunge on barrichello which cost him a podium, and his costly mistakes in qualifying through over driving the car.

Dont get me wrong i think sato has enourmous potential, i admire his courage and enthusiasm and one day will be one of the top drivers on the grid, but at this curent moment in time he is costing them valuable points and i think Davidson should surely be considered for a future race seat. He is mates with Jenson, has known him since they were kids and i think they would work well together.

But thats just my opinion....
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 21:49 (Ref:1032672)   #15
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As much as id love to see Mika back (and im still sure he'd show the current young guns a thing or two)...it aint gonna happen.

There's more chance of our Nige returning, and lets face it........he never did 'officially' retire did he?
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 23:53 (Ref:1032728)   #16
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f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Ferrari
SAME

McLaren
Kimi
JPM

Williams
Webber
Heidfeld

Renault
SAME

BAR
SAME

Jaguar
DC
Wirdheim

Toyota
Ralf
da Matta

Sauber/Jordan/Minardi
Could be anyone in these seats
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Old 10 Jul 2004, 23:56 (Ref:1032731)   #17
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Ferrari
M. Schumacher
R. Barrichello


Williams
M. Webber
A. Davidson

McLaren
K. Raikkonen
J. Montoya


BAR
J. Button
T. Sato

Renault
F. Alonso
J. Trulli

Jaguar
D. Coulthard
G. Pantano

Toyota
R. Schumacher

D. Coulthard

Sauber
F.Massa
G.Fisichella

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N. Heidfeld
T. Glock

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Old 10 Jul 2004, 23:58 (Ref:1032734)   #18
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So DC's evil twin is going to drive for Toyota then?
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 01:14 (Ref:1032752)   #19
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Thats odd. I made exactly the same mistake. Seems like we cant decide wether dc's a jag man or toyota bound for 05.
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 02:46 (Ref:1032786)   #20
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MS
RB

McLaren
Kimi
JPM

Williams
Webber
JV (how knows at this time)

Renault
Alonso
Trulli

BAR
Sato
Button

Jaguar
Heidfeld
Wirdheim

Toyota
Ralf
DC

Sauber
Fissi
Massa

Jordan
Klien $$$ by redbull/Jaguar/Cosworth
Baumgartner Zs

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Old 11 Jul 2004, 05:50 (Ref:1032833)   #21
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Ill have ago at this one

Ferrari
M.Schumacher
R.Barrichello

Williams
M.Webber
A.Davidson

McLaren
K.Raikkonen
J.Montoya

BAR
J.Button
T.Sato

Renault
F.Alonso
J.Trulli

Jaguar
C.Klien
N.Heidfeld

Toyota
R.Schumacher
D.Coulthard

Sauber
Fissi
F.Massa

Jordan
Z.Baumgartner
Pay Driver

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R Bristcoe
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 05:56 (Ref:1032837)   #22
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Button
Davidson
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 07:20 (Ref:1032850)   #23
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Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!
FERRARI:
M.Schumacher
Barrichello (or if Schumi retires, then Button)

WILLIAMS
Webber
Coulthard

MCLAREN
Raikkonen
Montoya

RENAULT
Trulli
Alonso

BAR
Button
Sato (or if Button goes to Ferrari, then Davidson)

SAUBER
Fisichella
Massa

JAGUAR
Klien
Davidson (or if Davidson goes to BAR, then Wirdheim)

TOYOTA
R.Schumacher
Panis

JORDAN
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MINARDI
Briscoe
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So all in all, not TOO much change to this year!
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 10:12 (Ref:1032906)   #24
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Schumi Retires? That'll be the f**king day. Knowing our luck TGF will keep going another 5 or 6 bloody years. Dont hold your breath on that one.
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 10:21 (Ref:1032911)   #25
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McLaren - Raikkonen/Montoya
Williams - Webber/Fisichella
BAR - Button/Sato
Renault - Alonso/Trulli
Toyota - R.Schumacher/Panis
Jaguar - Coulthard/Wirdheim
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Jordan - Paffett/Baumgartner
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