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Old 27 Jan 2004, 17:41 (Ref:852574)   #1
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The shocking cost of engine parts!

Speaking to Neil Bold he recons the cost of a new cam and followers is £110.

He went to America a while back and he said that they had run out of Ford cams so they opened it up meaning they could buy cams from other manufacturers (of the same profile etc) so over there they only cost about £10!!
why cant we do that here??
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 17:46 (Ref:852581)   #2
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You KNOW why not. Money.

Apparently fuel pumps were £13, new price £39.

I think the just pull the prices out of a hat. Better and more unbelievable than anything Paul Daniels can do.
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 17:53 (Ref:852591)   #3
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hang on, why cant we use the £10 ones? being thick here.
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 17:57 (Ref:852600)   #4
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they dont have Ford stamped on them
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 17:58 (Ref:852604)   #5
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cant we make a stamp?

fair enough, the price we pay for quality ford parts eh.
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 18:20 (Ref:852638)   #6
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cams either have to be original specification FoMoCo ones (i.e an old cam) Or the new ones supllied with "formula ford" or something similar stamped on the side of the rear bearing, these are also serial numbered as far as im aware..
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 18:20 (Ref:852639)   #7
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At least you didn't say 'good quality' RMR. LOL
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 18:22 (Ref:852642)   #8
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yeah thought 'quality' was a tad to sarcastic!!

why do they need a stamp. are the other advantagous? performance wise!
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 19:06 (Ref:852689)   #9
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What is the price of a block?
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 19:31 (Ref:852711)   #10
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£500.I wouldn't mind, but its full of holes. Well ours is.
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 19:45 (Ref:852730)   #11
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yeah thought 'quality' was a tad to sarcastic!!

why do they need a stamp. are the other advantagous? performance wise!
yup just like a maxpower sticker, it adds 50 horses...
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 20:16 (Ref:852776)   #12
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Does anyone know where I can get a new Block?
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 20:16 (Ref:852777)   #13
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If you 1600 boys still want to race old out of date push rod engines then parts will be expensive! You could always buy a Zetec, a brand new complete engine from Ford Motorsport is £1,100 and it only needs rebuilding every 5 seasons!
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 20:17 (Ref:852779)   #14
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Is that Dry sumped?
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 20:17 (Ref:852780)   #15
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Can we not utilise the 1600 Club to drum up support to get a rule change?
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 20:18 (Ref:852785)   #16
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I have a block that I will sell you, it will need liners and machining though. PM me if your interested!

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Old 27 Jan 2004, 20:20 (Ref:852788)   #17
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I have a bloke that I will sell you

2 camels for your wife sir!
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Old 27 Jan 2004, 21:21 (Ref:852879)   #18
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ss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
you know the answer? race vee!!!
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Old 28 Jan 2004, 11:23 (Ref:853446)   #19
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Matt, whats that post got to do with engines? do you keep him under the stairs?
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Old 28 Jan 2004, 13:28 (Ref:853590)   #20
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Only when he's been bad!
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Old 28 Jan 2004, 13:30 (Ref:853595)   #21
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I wonder how many people are not using ford parts ? lets be honest its pretty hard for the Scruit's to check the crank.
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Old 28 Jan 2004, 14:11 (Ref:853644)   #22
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I am under the impresion and have been told that there will be allot more (engine,flywheel,gearbox,damper) spot checks this year.Not just the inlet manifold and valve lift as normal.
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Old 28 Jan 2004, 14:15 (Ref:853653)   #23
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Thats very interesting John,

for example

not being the most mechanical of people how will the check the gear box ? they can't ask you to take it to bits can they ??? or are the checks more likey to be eyeballing it is a hewland and has a reverse gear.

Same goes for the engine, putting parts of the engine back together on a race weekend could be a real problem depending on how far they go with checking ?
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Old 28 Jan 2004, 14:21 (Ref:853661)   #24
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See Section 15 FF 1600Regs
"ALL ENGINES SHOULD HAVE PROVISION FOR SCRUTINEER'S WIRE SEALS"
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Old 28 Jan 2004, 14:31 (Ref:853685)   #25
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If the scruiterneers at car racing are anythig like the scruitineers at kart meetings, then they will happily have you strip your gearbox at the end of a race.

In the days when I was karting, the scruitineers had us taking out axles so they could check if they were hollow. They did it to the whole field, and it is a good 1.5 hour job. Also once you had taken the bearings off, you would have to put new ones on so the cost/time factor doesnt seem to concern scruitineers.
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