Engine options

Big Mark · 11 Jul 2005, 09:19 (Ref:1352353)

Hi all,
I have just picked up an old FF chassis and am looking for a low cost engine/trans option for it.
Mainly going to use it on track days etc but may venture on to the track in the future.
Had a look at x-flow hewland but the cost of the box looks just plain stupid.
any advice welcome.
Cheers
Mark

Triple J Motorsport · 11 Jul 2005, 12:04 (Ref:1352490)

That's what the chassis was designed for so anything else means loads of work.

If you are not going to race it and don't want to fit the correct engine and box the best option would be a bike engine and box.

Big Mark · 11 Jul 2005, 12:05 (Ref:1352492)

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Originally Posted by RayFF

That's what the chassis was designed for so anything else means loads of work.

If you are not going to race it and don't want to fit the correct engine and box the best option would be a bike engine and box.

I have only seen new hewlands, so what do used ones go for?

Triple J Motorsport · 11 Jul 2005, 13:26 (Ref:1352594)

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Originally Posted by Big Mark

I have only seen new hewlands, so what do used ones go for?

I think I've seen them on Racecarsdirect for a grand

Should be able to get an engine for the same money or less

Walshy · 11 Jul 2005, 13:51 (Ref:1352620)

What chassis is it?

I know of a Mark 9 gearbox for sale with 9/31 final drive unit and a bell housing, but the housing is off an RF'87.....

Big Mark · 11 Jul 2005, 13:53 (Ref:1352621)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walshy

What chassis is it?

I know of a Mark 9 gearbox for sale with 9/31 final drive unit and a bell housing, but the housing is off an RF'87.....

I have to be honest and say I have no idea
What sort of money is that going for?, still undecided if I stay x-flow or go for the bike engine route, cost will decide I guess.

Walshy · 11 Jul 2005, 14:08 (Ref:1352638)

Looks like a Crossle to me. Or something of that era. Maybe an old Reynard. If it is a Reynard, seek the advise of Dave Hart. He is a bit of a whiz with Reynards. Is there no plate or marking on it anywhere?

Big Mark · 11 Jul 2005, 14:11 (Ref:1352643)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walshy

Looks like a Crossle to me. Or something of that era. Maybe an old Reynard. If it is a Reynard, seek the advise of Dave Hart. He is a bit of a whiz with Reynards. Is there no plate or marking on it anywhere?

nope not a sausage

Walshy · 11 Jul 2005, 14:34 (Ref:1352660)

Oh well.

Thing is, you need to know to start getting some suspension together. Or do you have uprights and wishbones? We might be able to tell the chassis off the suspension if you have any pictures.

It's tough if you start trying to fabricate your own stuff. Unless you know about suspension geometries etc, your on a hiding to nothing. A friend of mine got a bare chassis and whilst a reasonable engineer, he could never get the thing to work.

I'd stick to the xflow option if I were you though. A year or so down the line when you decide you want to dip your toe into a bit of racing, you don't want to be changing it all again. Spend now to save in the future.

Big Mark · 11 Jul 2005, 14:39 (Ref:1352664)

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Originally Posted by Walshy

Oh well.

Thing is, you need to know to start getting some suspension together. Or do you have uprights and wishbones? We might be able to tell the chassis off the suspension if you have any pictures.
.

Dont know if this will help??

Athgoe Racing · 11 Jul 2005, 19:14 (Ref:1352887)

Front and rear suspension and uprights are like a Halke, but its not a crossle. Try the Halke web site.

Big Mark · 11 Jul 2005, 19:16 (Ref:1352891)

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Originally Posted by Athgoe Racing

Front and rear suspension and uprights are like a Halke, but its not a crossle. Try the Halke web site.

any idea of the web addy, done searches but not joy?

Mackmot · 11 Jul 2005, 19:24 (Ref:1352896)

I saw that on Ebay, thought about bidding. We think it might be a Ray. definately a Modus nose though

Triple J Motorsport · 12 Jul 2005, 00:37 (Ref:1353108)

Don't think it's a Ray

Do you know if it had side rads or front one?

StephenRae · 12 Jul 2005, 08:11 (Ref:1353283)

Prs...?

Big Mark · 12 Jul 2005, 08:13 (Ref:1353287)

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Originally Posted by RayFF

Don't think it's a Ray

Do you know if it had side rads or front one?

The nose is not origional but I think the sides may be, so from that I would think side/rear rad

JustinDawkins · 12 Jul 2005, 08:15 (Ref:1353289)

Its not a Ray, certain parts are like a Royale? suspension pickups etc

Walshy · 12 Jul 2005, 10:14 (Ref:1353370)

The best thing I can think is for you to go to Google. Click on the images tab and do a search on PRS/Hawke/Royale/Crossle etc and see if it comes up with something. Failing that, try and contact a car restoration firm. Someone who deals in older race cars and they may have some info for you.

Best of luck..............

It would be nice to see it finished though.

JustinDawkins · 12 Jul 2005, 10:16 (Ref:1353372)

or email alan cornock (www.racingcarsforsale.co.uk) he has owned the rights to royale and reynard for years.

Big Mark · 12 Jul 2005, 10:17 (Ref:1353375)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walshy

The best thing I can think is for you to go to Google. Click on the images tab and do a search on PRS/Hawke/Royale/Crossle etc and see if it comes up with something. Failing that, try and contact a car restoration firm. Someone who deals in older race cars and they may have some info for you.

Best of luck..............

It would be nice to see it finished though.

I will get finished one way or another. I have been promissing myself this for many years and now I have restored Bikes, Classic cars and prepared a hillclimb Metro I think I have the tools and time to do it.
I appologies to anyone if I do choose the bike engine route and this offends

but I am still looking........

Big Mark · 12 Jul 2005, 10:22 (Ref:1353381)

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Originally Posted by JustinDawkins

or email alan cornock (www.racingcarsforsale.co.uk) he has owned the rights to royale and reynard for years.

Email sent, Cheers

Mackmot · 12 Jul 2005, 20:51 (Ref:1354088)

its not a PRS i rebuilt one this winter thats in the workshop, had a look to check. Also my dad worked on all 3/4 variants and said they are all virtually the same.

Triple J Motorsport · 12 Jul 2005, 22:50 (Ref:1354209)

My guess is a Royale - chassis looks right age and style plus side rads

Matt22 · 13 Jul 2005, 12:06 (Ref:1354554)

Just a thought - there was a five-speed hewland on racecarsdirect a while ago. This is cheaper than 4 speed as less demand. Also road type kent 1600s are cheaper (and faster) than race spec ones.

StephenRae · 13 Jul 2005, 12:20 (Ref:1354571)

It could well be a Royale but it's not an RP21...it must be earlier.

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