2013 12 Hours of Sebring Entry List Speculation

FstrthnU · 23 Oct 2012, 08:41 (Ref:3156324)

I know next year's Sebring is a LONG time away, but since we are already getting speculation on special entries I figure we can have the thread ready.

CONFIRMED CARS

P2: 1x Conquest Endurance Morgan-Nissan
1x Dempsey Racing Lola B12/80 Mazda

GT: 2x Corvette Racing Chevrolet Corvette C6.R
2x Extreme Speed Motorsports Ferrari 458 Italia GTC
1x Falken Tire Motorsport Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
2x Flying Lizard Motorsport Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
1x Alex Job Racing Lotus Evora

LIKELY CARS

P1: 1x Muscle Milk Pickett Racing HPD ARX-03a
1x Dyson Racing Lola B12/60 Mazda

P2: 2x Level 5 Motorsport HPD ARX-03b

GT: 1x Paul Miller Racing Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
2x SRT Motorsport SRT Viper GTS-R
1x Alex Job Racing Lotus Evora

GTC: 1x JDX Racing
1x Alex Job Racing
2x NGT Motorsports
1x Green Hornet Racing
1x TRG
1x GMG Racing
1x Competition Motorsports

PC: 1x RSR Racing
1x Dempsey Racing
1x PR1 Mathiasen Motorsports
2x Core Autosports
1x Merchant Services Racing

POSSIBLES (Less than likely)

P1: 1x Audi Sport Audi R18 E-Tron Quattro
1x Rebellion Racing Lola B12/60 Toyota

P2: 1x Starworks Motorsport HPD ARX-03b
1x Muscle Milk Pickett Racing HPD ARX-03b
1x Core Autosport?

GT: 1x Risi Competizione Ferrari 458 Italia GTC
2x Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing BMW Z4 GTE
1x Falken Tire Motorsports Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
1x Krohn Racing Ferrari 458 Italia GTC
1x Mclaren MP4-12C GTE?
1x DragonSpeed Audi R8 GTE?

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-sebring-2013/
The Audi, Starworks and Krohn speculation is mentioned in this article

Simmi · 23 Oct 2012, 08:59 (Ref:3156338)

In terms of speculation on twitter - John Dagys said yesterday we could expect more HPD P2's in action next year.

Then Hindy chipped in that he'd heard one would be run by a prominent IndyCar and Grand Am team. Surely that has to equal Ganassi?

Mt. Lynx · 23 Oct 2012, 10:25 (Ref:3156398)

I don't think there will be any P1 cars at Sebring next year. I wouldn't be surprised if we'll see a few GTE's fold their entries either.
I fear this will be the most uninspiring Sebring 12hrs since its inception.

On a personal level, I'll skip this one. The only class I have any interest in that will most likely have a couple of entries is GTE, and I fear there will be only two corvettes present in that class
Sorry about the rant.

Simmi · 23 Oct 2012, 11:02 (Ref:3156420)

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Originally Posted by Mt. Lynx

I don't think there will be any P1 cars at Sebring next year. I wouldn't be surprised if we'll see a few GTE's fold their entries either.

On a personal level, I'll skip this one. The only class I have any interest in that will most likely have a couple of entries is GTE, and I fear there will be only two corvettes present in that class
Sorry about the rant.

Thankfully the signs show you are probably wrong.

Mt. Lynx · 23 Oct 2012, 11:17 (Ref:3156429)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Thankfully the signs show you are probably wrong.

I certainly hope so! I love Sebring 12hrs.

DeathOrGlory · 23 Oct 2012, 11:17 (Ref:3156430)

Ganassi? In the ALMS?

MitchZ06 · 23 Oct 2012, 11:24 (Ref:3156433)

Drop McLaren from the list, they won't debut until later in 2013.

aneesh99 · 23 Oct 2012, 14:21 (Ref:3156509)

Audi's already confirmed for Sebring aren't they? Toyota is very unlikely, there's been a lot of been rumblings about that not happening.

Edit: Audi not confirmed, Dieter Gass said that they would try to be there:

“We hope to be able to go and we are planning to go at this stage, but the final decision has not been made,” he said. “It is a very good preparation for the Le Mans 24 Hours.”

Though I guess Dr.Ullrich's sentiment in John Dagys' article seems to show a little less commitment.

gwyllion · 23 Oct 2012, 14:26 (Ref:3156510)

FstrthnU posted a link to the SPEED.com article in which Dr. Ullrich acknowlegdes that Audi is evaluating a Sebring entry.

Quote:

"We're thinking about it but no decisions have been made yet," Head of Audi Motorsport, Dr. Wolfgang Ullrich told SPEED.com. "I think a decision will not be [made] until before November."
...
"It would make sense to run a new car there because we basically used Sebring to do endurance runs [and tests]," Ullrich said. "Maybe we can combine it for next year but it's something that has to be decided and it has not been decided."

The Badger · 23 Oct 2012, 14:47 (Ref:3156522)

Toyota would be foolish not to go to Sebring . Damn sure its not De Chaunac's thoughts .

Wonder might you see a 2012 "Oreca" entry there , as opposed to a full 2013 Toyota presence ?

Audi will be there , and so should Toyota .

Jacques Rabbit · 23 Oct 2012, 14:51 (Ref:3156523)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

P2: 1x Conquest Endurance Morgan-Nissan
1x Dempsey Racing Lola B12/80 Mazda

I must have missed where these were confirmed. I thought Conquest was having financial trouble, and in jeopardy because of the ALMS acquisition in that their contract to distribute the Morgan in the U.S. wasn't really worth much anymore. As for Dempsey (sidenote: the official designation is B12/87, but that doesn't truly matter

), I thought it was still possible for them to do the WEC instead.

Both of those thoughts, however, could be wrong. I'm probably just behind on the news.

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Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

Ganassi? In the ALMS?

The ALMS will run in 2013, but is owned by NASCAR. NASCAR, in fact, are the ones who got Sebring and Petit on SPEED/FOX Sports 1 in 2013. So it's not longer a crime for Ganassi to run ALMS, and he may do it alongside Grand-Am as a way to get a feel for an LMP2.

Why?

Because LMP2s might be included in Grand-Am for 2014, and Ganassi's standard-issue bodywork has some aerodynamic disadvantages to the Corvette bodywork. Ganassi already has HPD ties through IndyCar, so he may be looking at using an LMP2 in a combined DP/P2 class from 2014. I don't think it's a huge stretch, but again, it's speculation on my part.

Another consideration RE: HPD: CORE Autosport. This obviously isn't in reference to Hindhaugh's hint, but CORE use Starworks' drivers (Popow, Dalziel, Kimber-Smith, etc). and have an interest in going to LMP2. Starworks could help them out with an HPD more than anything. Once more, speculation, not based on anything.

DeathOrGlory · 23 Oct 2012, 15:29 (Ref:3156534)

Regarding CORE, they already have one dynamite driver in the wings: Kyle Marcelli.

I don't really mind Ganassi going to the ALMS next year, it would be a good thing especially if the LMP teams stay. The question though about the rules in 2014, will Ganassi go to a DP or a LMP? Rojas and Pruett are definitely going to stick though, and there would be 3 very quick Mexicans: Diaz, Rojas, Gonzalez.

carsten66 · 23 Oct 2012, 15:32 (Ref:3156538)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

In terms of speculation on twitter - John Dagys said yesterday we could expect more HPD P2's in action next year.

Then Hindy chipped in that he'd heard one would be run by a prominent IndyCar and Grand Am team. Surely that has to equal Ganassi?

In the case it's true, I hardly believe we will see a team buying a new car considering the unclear situation of the series - that left the question, how many HPD's are available to rent or lease at all ?

The Badger · 23 Oct 2012, 15:57 (Ref:3156553)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

Regarding CORE, they already have one dynamite driver in the wings: Kyle Marcelli.

I thought he was with merchant ?

The Badger · 23 Oct 2012, 15:59 (Ref:3156554)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsten66

In the case it's true, I hardly believe we will see a team buying a new car considering the unclear situation of the series - that left the question, how many HPD's are available to rent or lease at all ?

So , Hindy is talking out of his hat again ?

Im sure there will be more ..... WEC and ALMS too .

Simmi · 23 Oct 2012, 16:01 (Ref:3156555)

Our friend JAG mentions on twitter that Mike Newton has a fully-upgraded P2 sitting in his shop. He can either return to racing or lease it out.

DeathOrGlory · 23 Oct 2012, 16:05 (Ref:3156557)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I thought he was with merchant ?

Whoops! I realized that one a bit too late.

**skycafe** · 23 Oct 2012, 16:12 (Ref:3156559)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsten66

In the case it's true, I hardly believe we will see a team buying a new car considering the unclear situation of the series - that left the question, how many HPD's are available to rent or lease at all ?

It is sale able after the season, either to a team overseas or on the historic market.

Fogelhund · 23 Oct 2012, 16:49 (Ref:3156583)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsten66

In the case it's true, I hardly believe we will see a team buying a new car considering the unclear situation of the series - that left the question, how many HPD's are available to rent or lease at all ?

These teams might be privy to information that we aren't at this point.

Dead-Eye · 23 Oct 2012, 18:12 (Ref:3156612)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

P1: 1x Audi Sport Audi R18 E-Tron Quattro

I don't think one car is likely for Audi. No reason not to run two if you're there anyway. It's going to be either two or none.

Jacques Rabbit · 23 Oct 2012, 18:56 (Ref:3156637)

Throwing out pure crap:

Adrián Fernández has stated he wants to return to American sports car racing in a prototype.

Ferández has Telmex and HPD ties.

Ganassi has Telmex (through Rojas) and HPD (through IndyCar) ties.

Like I said, pure crap, but I wonder if that's part of it because I'd assume Chip would be running ALMS alongside Grand-Am, not instead of.

I don't know. I'm bored.

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

These teams might be privy to information that we aren't at this point.

I also would think that, with the class structure allegedly being confirmed sometime in December, there would be plenty of time to gather information now and finalize a decision then.

DistortedSmile · 23 Oct 2012, 19:34 (Ref:3156654)

Is it really impossible for RLL to run the M3s in Sebring? Considering how many teams enter their old cars I wouldn't think it's terribly unlikely, at least for Sebring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Rabbit

Throwing out pure crap:

Adrián Fernández has stated he wants to return to American sports car racing in a prototype.

Ferández has Telmex and HPD ties

He also has ties to Aston Martin, though as you say he probably prefers prototypes.
I imagine Aston Martin themselves could also be a possibility for Sebring.

TF110 · 24 Oct 2012, 06:03 (Ref:3156849)

He and Aston Martin have parted ways. No longer a connection with them (and no Lowes sponsorship).

DeathOrGlory · 24 Oct 2012, 09:54 (Ref:3156908)

How about De Ferran?

The Badger · 24 Oct 2012, 10:03 (Ref:3156917)

Be great to see De Ferran return .

Whats he been doing since his last ALMS foray , with what , and how good has he done please ?

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