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Old 25 Apr 2006, 17:31 (Ref:1594778)   #1
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Button's lollipop man is...

is his cheif engineer Alaister Gibons
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 17:33 (Ref:1594780)   #2
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 17:37 (Ref:1594781)   #3
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 17:47 (Ref:1594784)   #4
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sorry,
i no it must be tough for the guy, and i hope the pit team can embrace there mistake and move on..
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 18:37 (Ref:1594813)   #5
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Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Speaking of which...did anyone send in a suggestion for a new name for a lollipop to James Allen?

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Old 25 Apr 2006, 18:40 (Ref:1594815)   #6
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Isn't it Gibson?
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 18:44 (Ref:1594819)   #7
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Isn't it Gibson?
Alistair Gibson.
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 18:51 (Ref:1594824)   #8
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oh it was close, the spelling
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 18:55 (Ref:1594826)   #9
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He lowered the lollipop quickly and Jenson didn't react that quickly... I've seen drivers just inch forward, not stop 20 meters further...
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 19:06 (Ref:1594831)   #10
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Speaking of which...did anyone send in a suggestion for a new name for a lollipop to James Allen?

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Well now we've worked out who the lollipop man was, can I answer this off topic question?

Since James Allen has said that 'lollipop man' is childish and needs changing, can we call it the 'James Allen', if you get my drift?
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 19:16 (Ref:1594835)   #11
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Clearly this is a revelation, but the incident discussion is here: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...t=82510&page=5

Even James Allen knew this and said so at the time.
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Old 25 Apr 2006, 19:22 (Ref:1594841)   #12
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Yes John! I think I get your drift, you mean like some people need an 'idiot board', others may need an 'Allen Board' (or should that be bored?)
Anyway, what's wrong with 'lollipop man' it probably baffles Johhny Foreigner, and is a typical British idiosyncracy.
Let's not flatter 'Fat Boy' by giving any of his suggestions creedence.
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 09:55 (Ref:1595276)   #13
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Even All The drivers call it Lolipop,
Its britsh init and lets keep it that way, its straight to the point.
But i have no idea what you would call it the traffic light, cause thats basically wot is Go and stop
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 15:38 (Ref:1595532)   #14
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Unless they get a new one, I think we should call the Honda lollipop a stick...
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 17:32 (Ref:1595583)   #15
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Thought the man with the lolly was Mr Whippy
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 18:04 (Ref:1595595)   #16
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Millions of whatevers are spent on finding that last tenth of a second and the drivers get let out of their pit box by a guy wielding a lollipop.Room for improvement there i think.
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 18:44 (Ref:1595620)   #17
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But it remains the best way!
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 20:52 (Ref:1595694)   #18
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Millions of whatevers are spent on finding that last tenth of a second and the drivers get let out of their pit box by a guy wielding a lollipop.Room for improvement there i think.
Er.. im sure they are highly trained.... and being a lollipop man alone is hardly a career in itself....
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 22:02 (Ref:1595770)   #19
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Er.. im sure they are highly trained.... and being a lollipop man alone is hardly a career in itself....
This is just on Sunday's of course. They're unavailable on school days.
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Old 26 Apr 2006, 23:26 (Ref:1595825)   #20
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Millions of whatevers are spent on finding that last tenth of a second and the drivers get let out of their pit box by a guy wielding a lollipop.Room for improvement there i think.
I see your point - any suggestions?
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Old 27 Apr 2006, 00:11 (Ref:1595836)   #21
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But it remains the best way!
No it doesn't, there are alternatives to a guy holding a lollipop stick for pitstops. He's really an extra man in the pitlane that need not be there if teams actually experimented with their routine.

DTM style mechanical boards or even something as simple as the team talking the driver through the sequence on the radio (which I'm sure they already do) would remove 12 men from the entire pitlane during a race, safer and probably more effecient.

I'd be amazed if drivers need the lollipop to know when to stop considering they're surrounded by their mechanics in the first place and the turn in could easily be signalled from the pitwall.

It remains the simplist way of doing things, but let's not pretend it's the only and best way.

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Old 27 Apr 2006, 00:47 (Ref:1595850)   #22
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i have an idea, but i think i may contact the Honda F1 team before i release it on this forum.
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Old 27 Apr 2006, 00:53 (Ref:1595852)   #23
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Er.. im sure they are highly trained.... and being a lollipop man alone is hardly a career in itself....

a number of team managers/bosses (Ron Dennis) or Chief Mechanics have been lillipop men because no one else wants to do it.
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a number of team managers/bosses (Ron Dennis) or Chief Mechanics have been lillipop men because no one else wants to do it.
The pays not very good.

I think that once the pitstop has been carried out and the lollipop is lifted the driver should have to wait for a further period of time before he moves off,to allow the crew to retire to a safe distance.During that time anything untoward should be spotted and the lollipop is lowered again.This isn't speeding things up,but it will make it safer.
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Old 27 Apr 2006, 10:01 (Ref:1596098)   #25
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imagine putting that on Your Cv Im am a lolipop man

But giving credit to the guy he is not only lolipop guy, hes buttons cheif engineer.

P.s Have there been any incidents like it in F1 history
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