Help needed: What is this car?

LewsDad · 20 Apr 2010, 14:52 (Ref:2676636)

Can anyone tell me what this is? I'm pretty sure it's got a Morgan badge on it, but beyond that I haven't got a clue. My research skills are obviously not as prodigious as I like to make out...

Graham Goodwin · 20 Apr 2010, 14:58 (Ref:2676638)

Morgan SLR

LewsDad · 20 Apr 2010, 15:15 (Ref:2676644)

So it is. Excellent work, many thanks

Also, holy cow! Had I had the first idea what it was, I would have paid it a bit more attention!

Mike Bell · 20 Apr 2010, 17:24 (Ref:2676732)

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Originally Posted by LewsDad

So it is. Excellent work, many thanks

Also, holy cow! Had I had the first idea what it was, I would have paid it a bit more attention!

Simon Orebi-Gann testing after winter engine rebuild, along with fellow Driver / Morgan afficionado Rick Bourne. Chris Conoley (MASS) was keeping an eye on things- Wonder if he will do the same for me now my engine is finished!

Great car and great people. They are doing some Gentleman Drivers events plus some GT & Sportscar cup races this year.

LewsDad · 20 Apr 2010, 17:34 (Ref:2676743)

Excellent, I'll keep an eye out.

terence · 20 Apr 2010, 21:48 (Ref:2676946)

One of the four produced,beautifully rebuilt.

Tim the Grey · 21 Apr 2010, 09:06 (Ref:2677181)

And it IS a very pretty car, indeed. It stops me in my tracks every time I meet it...

yesnomaybe · 12 Sep 2013, 08:24 (Ref:3302579)

sorry to drag up an old thread, but i have a question about the Morgan SLRs

the question is, did any of them ever race at Le Mans?
i thought they had, or at least one had, but i've just realised that when registration plate TOK258 won its class in '62, it was then on a Morgan +4, not an SLR

i'm gaining interest in le mans and i'm trying to collect together all the pics i have of cars that raced at le mans

cheers

Alan Raine · 12 Sep 2013, 09:40 (Ref:3302609)

Quote:

Originally Posted by yesnomaybe

sorry to drag up an old thread, but i have a question about the Morgan SLRs

the question is, did any of them ever race at Le Mans?
i thought they had, or at least one had, but i've just realised that when registration plate TOK258 won its class in '62, it was then on a Morgan +4, not an SLR

i'm gaining interest in le mans and i'm trying to collect together all the pics i have of cars that raced at le mans

cheers

I think it may be Morgan +4 SLR.

Some more info here: http://www.gomog.com/mogwire/SLR/allSLR.html

The Le Mans car appears to have been built around a Triumph chassis.

**John Turner** · 12 Sep 2013, 10:44 (Ref:3302638)

Yep, the first SLR wasn't constructed until late 1963 and it was indeed based on a TR4 chassis. Don't think any of them did Le Mans but did race at Spa and Nurburgring.

This should really be in the History section, so moving it (t)here!

yesnomaybe · 12 Sep 2013, 11:20 (Ref:3302651)

thanks the info chaps

heres some further pics of these rare cars
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coletri...ags/morganslr/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coletri...gs/triumphslr/

Mike Bell · 12 Sep 2013, 11:26 (Ref:3302658)

None of the SLRs, Triumph or 3 Morgan chassis'd versions, competed at Le Mans. My understanding (which is welcome to be corrected if wrong!) of the reason is that Chris Lawrence had a bad road accident which put him out of action for a lengthy spell. Upon his return to fitness he moved on to the Deep Sanderson project and the Morgan's were forgotten.

Shame as the potential top speed is so much higher than anything a +4 can achieve. With some additional lighting and optimised engine cooling it would have been a great Le Mans entry!

John Fielden · 12 Sep 2013, 12:52 (Ref:3302700)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

None of the SLRs, Triumph or 3 Morgan chassis'd versions, competed at Le Mans. My understanding (which is welcome to be corrected if wrong!) of the reason is that Chris Lawrence had a bad road accident which put him out of action for a lengthy spell. Upon his return to fitness he moved on to the Deep Sanderson project and the Morgan's were forgotten.

Shame as the potential top speed is so much higher than anything a +4 can achieve. With some additional lighting and optimised engine cooling it would have been a great Le Mans entry!

To quote Bill de Selincourt who was a great friend of Chris:-
"One of the most uncomfortable cars I ever drove, I could not get into it properly"

Mike Bell · 12 Sep 2013, 16:05 (Ref:3302830)

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Originally Posted by John Fielden

To quote Bill de Selincourt who was a great friend of Chris:-
"One of the most uncomfortable cars I ever drove, I could not get into it properly"

Interesting! Although some 'hard points' (as I think they are called!) of the +4 remain the seat position is lower and view out so much better. Like a proper GT car in fact! The three Morgans are all equipped with full roll cages nowadays but having raced one for 50 minutes at a stretch and driven a short distance in another (both with period seats rather than FIA), I find them easier to drive and more comfortable than a +4. I'm about 6ft but anyone taller could struggle.

Off topic, but all 3 Morgan versions will be racing at Spa weekend after next. The unpainted car of John Emberson is doing the 6hr race, and that is a first for any of them. The other two will be in the 'only 90 minutes' Gentleman Drivers race on Sunday. Keith Ahlers in the green car is leading the GD Championship.

Greg Cozier · 12 Sep 2013, 16:39 (Ref:3302850)

I think the TR4 version is prettier due to being slightly shorter. It certainly has superior front suspension to the Morgan but is a bit heavier.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22310427@N08/5043917644/

**John Turner** · 13 Sep 2013, 13:59 (Ref:3303369)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Off topic, but all 3 Morgan versions will be racing at Spa weekend after next.

Photo opportunity someone, anyone?

Mike Bell · 14 Sep 2013, 07:28 (Ref:3303718)

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Turner

Photo opportunity someone, anyone?

I'll be keeping both hands on the wheel, John!

Should find the green and red cars in Paddock Rouge and the (unpainted) 6hr entry in allocated garage.

**John Turner** · 14 Sep 2013, 07:38 (Ref:3303724)

Someone should line them up!

Andy Clegg · 17 Sep 2013, 14:46 (Ref:3305250)

I took this photo at Donington Park at An HSCC meeting in 2001.

bauble · 19 Sep 2013, 08:12 (Ref:3306046)

If you are interested in Morgans of any stripe, including all three SLR's, you can find plenty of pictures on;

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=0DC64...C71B&sc=photos

The John Emberson car is unpainted as, so the story goes, it was rushed to Spa for the Six Hour Race for Lawrence to drive without time to paint it, so he hired a group of young lads to polish overnight, and it has remained so ever since. The original Triumph car was considered to have too short a wheelbase, and the further examples were based on the Morgan +4.
I became knowledgeable (not expert) on these cars when doing a short history for the 2012 Revival where all three were racing along with the original TR version. This was the first and only time (?) that all four cars had been together on the same grid.

bauble.

bauble · 19 Sep 2013, 08:39 (Ref:3306053)

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John - your wish is my command!

**John Turner** · 19 Sep 2013, 12:17 (Ref:3306148)

Brilliant, Bob. Now how about from the front!

bauble · 19 Sep 2013, 13:51 (Ref:3306193)

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Originally Posted by John Turner

Brilliant, Bob. Now how about from the front!

I did not John, but I have seen a picture taken at Luffield Out with all three in line. My shot shows John Emberson leading Jack Bellinger (in Keth Ahler's car) with Simon O G bringing up the rear.

**John Turner** · 19 Sep 2013, 15:33 (Ref:3306242)

I jest, of course - read your byline. It is a great shot!

bauble · 19 Sep 2013, 17:42 (Ref:3306298)

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Turner

I jest, of course - read your byline. It is a great shot!

Gracious John! A sense of humour?

Amazing what they can do with transplant surgery these days.

Who mentioned bylines.?

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