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26 Aug 2004, 21:55 (Ref:1078580)
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Richards fights former employer....
Can Team Dynamik take a trick this week?
Here Seems Mr Richards is taking legal action against Team Dynamik for driving services fees not received.... ... while the team is counter claiming for costs of cars damaged by Mr Richards while he was in their employ $125k a year is a nice earner for a race driver too 
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26 Aug 2004, 22:26 (Ref:1078608)
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Jeez, I hope they dont find out who the informer was last week, imagine that law suit
 
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26 Aug 2004, 22:28 (Ref:1078610)
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720 K for race car damage?
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26 Aug 2004, 22:33 (Ref:1078616)
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Lucky Rodney's employer was his daddy
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26 Aug 2004, 23:44 (Ref:1078681)
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Gee this industry is turning into a widfall for the legal eagles. Watch out TC you might be next.
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26 Aug 2004, 23:54 (Ref:1078692)
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Legal Eagles one way, sharks the other.
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27 Aug 2004, 00:44 (Ref:1078710)
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!!!!TD are a complete joke!!!!!!
First they don't pay a driver his wages, then they try to sue him for damages caused to the car & to top it off, they cheat! If I was a fan of TD, I would change quick smart because they are a complete joke!! How embarrassing for everyone involved with the team… TD hang your head in shame. |
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27 Aug 2004, 00:51 (Ref:1078713)
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I guess we won't see Dale posting here for a while. I'm sure his legal eagles have told him to keep quiet about everything, lest he start another blow-up.
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27 Aug 2004, 01:11 (Ref:1078718)
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It is shyte like this that is contributing to my apathy towards this category....
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27 Aug 2004, 01:14 (Ref:1078723)
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Doesn't it say, though, that something is wrong with the rules of the category in the first place if a team (any team) has to resort to this sort of thing?
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27 Aug 2004, 01:22 (Ref:1078727)
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From a legal perspective, TD have very little chance of a successful counter claim. Even if they could prove that the damage caused by Richards was intentional, they still have little hope.
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27 Aug 2004, 01:29 (Ref:1078729)
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Unless there was a damage clause in the contract which I doubt.
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27 Aug 2004, 01:46 (Ref:1078740)
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I am a TD fan, well was a TD fan untill this week. The sooner Dynamik is removed from the entry lists the better!
Seriously, the treatment given to the driver that could have made the difference in the team (J Richards) now spanning nearly a year after his initial employment on top of this cheating farce! Simon Wills and Team Dynamik, you've just lost a fan! |
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27 Aug 2004, 01:48 (Ref:1078742)
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If you were a driver you would have to seriously consider a Konica Minolta drive over a drive in #45 next year, if #45 exists next year.
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27 Aug 2004, 04:50 (Ref:1078797)
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Crashes happen, so I don't think they have a leg to stand on.
That 2.5% of merchandise sales has to be worth something too as I know Dynamik was flogging as much junk as they could last year. |
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27 Aug 2004, 07:37 (Ref:1078848)
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we have not seen the white pointers yet .The sardines are only circling yet [the bait], bring on the big ones....
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27 Aug 2004, 08:08 (Ref:1078867)
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In reality i would think the value of the team and the value of merchandise would be practically nothing at the moment.
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27 Aug 2004, 10:32 (Ref:1078970)
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Drivers contracts these days often include all sorts of things, including damage clauses where the driver must contribute to repair costs arising from events caused by the driver. Mr Richards seriously donald ducked the #45 car in NZ last year, and had other crash damage created at his own hand. Quite how that drifts up to $720k is a question for the beancounters... |
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27 Aug 2004, 12:14 (Ref:1079090)
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Wasn't the NZ crash the one where he collected the tyres? If so, I think that they would have more luck in suing the organisers for leaving a dangerous obstacle on the track.
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27 Aug 2004, 12:22 (Ref:1079102)
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Depends how it is worded... if the driver is in control of the motor vehicle, and he instigates a crash not caused by mechanical failure, there could be an argument that this is the driver's fault to some degree....
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27 Aug 2004, 13:13 (Ref:1079153)
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Imagine if the penalty that may be awarded to the transgressors (is that a word?), included a spell from the coming rounds?
If a team was unsure of how it was going to pay the $150K fine per car for not turning up, per meeting, as they could no longer afford to compete, there is the opportunity for said team to end up in a hole for $1.5Mil+. A possable $250K fine is maybe a cheap way out, trade off some of the fine for a longer suspension from the championship, buy yourself more time to try and gain more sponsors. What is the story with Holy Grail? Another ICS? |
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27 Aug 2004, 14:08 (Ref:1079187)
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Surely a driver is insured for this type of thing, ie crashes, it is motorsport where crashes do happen and quite often. Team Dynamic are clutching at straws. Trouble seems to follow Mr.Wills.
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27 Aug 2004, 23:59 (Ref:1079622)
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Dynamik arent clutching at straws.... if a contract with another party states that recovery for damages can be claimed from the other party, and the costs involved are significant, why shouldnt they take the other party to court, to determine the validity of the contract, and therefore recover monies owed....
It is more likely than not that the situation will be settled on the court steps, but in the world of motorsport, machismo seems more important than money in the bank sometimes. Holy Grail Wines is seriously messy.... the owner of that business is still locked up in a court battle with NAB for the control of his house, and a series of businesses which have cross claims and securities on this property, on crop liens, issues with the branding of the product in the first place.... an a-grade mess... ... so presumably thats why the brand is not on the car any more.... |
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28 Aug 2004, 02:48 (Ref:1079682)
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28 Aug 2004, 05:40 (Ref:1079729)
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Surely Dynamik counter-suing is just an American-style ego trip to make themselves look better than who is suing them.
The NZ crash was a questionable affair....Jason spun and hit a tyre barrier that shouldn't really have been there. So if Dynamik win, then Jason sues Motorsport NZ and the Pukekohe owners? Where is the logic? Simon Wills Racing is not looking pretty. They seem to have all the elements and can pull new sponsors in, but it seems to continually "fertilise" on them. With that much money tied up in a team, you have to wonder for how much longer? Roadships have been advertising in NZ, but it wouldn't generate a significant income increase as Dynamik don't have a profile over here - the colours are black and white to reflect some sort of NZ-ism, but the website says that they are proudly South Australian. Let's just hope that the chequebook can keep performing as well as the cars. Having just realised there is more below the advert on the article link, it provides quite an interesting opportunity for other teams if the claim is upheld in court - Suing for future loss of profits and lost sponsorship? Shiite! Imagine what FPR could go Lowndes et al for? Who is Race Driver Management? Last edited by Just Do It!; 28 Aug 2004 at 05:47. |
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