Thats what it's all about..for Michael

drexel · 19 Jun 2001, 13:57 (Ref:106868)

In an interview on BBC1 Schumacher was asked if he felt at all guilty about his past indiscretions, he said:

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“Not really guilty, I've been growing up with Senna and remember incidents with Prost and Senna. It's why I don't have the feeling I'm guilty for anything because it was part of the game. I knew it wasn't right, but this is an important moment, everything or nothing, and you go for it.”

Now that's as honest as you'll ever get.

Also note the quote

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...but this is an important moment, everything or nothing, and you go for it.”

That's why he's the best out there.

bghaw · 19 Jun 2001, 14:58 (Ref:106880)

HE SUCKS

angst · 19 Jun 2001, 15:15 (Ref:106888)

Typical modern reaction. They were doing it so why shouldn't I . It's their fault so why should I feel guilty.

ozywoodwards · 19 Jun 2001, 17:44 (Ref:106944)

I'd like to hear what Fangio's or Clark's reactions would have been to TGF's antics in '94 and '97. They where the best out there, but did they take out their competitors?

Ralf's Girl · 19 Jun 2001, 19:49 (Ref:107005)

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Originally posted by angst
It's their fault so why should I feel guilty.

Agreement there, Angst. TGF is pretty much blaming Senna for his own driving tactics. How this is possible, I'm not completely sure...I assume TGF does have a mind of his own?

PoweredByHonda · 19 Jun 2001, 23:32 (Ref:107133)

That's exactly right.
I wonder what Damon Hill would think about that when Michael took him out to get the championship.
Or what about Villeneuve? Michael tried taking Jacques out but took himself out.

Wrex · 20 Jun 2001, 01:46 (Ref:107177)

Excellent - Another "I hate TGF" thread - these are so rare

**Peter Mallett** · 20 Jun 2001, 04:20 (Ref:107201)

Well as I've said before his actions at times have been reprehensible and this just confirms it. Its sad that some people think that doing those things equals being "the best". Winning at all costs is not acceptable in a sport where death or injury is just around the corner.

Saying that, TGF's honesty, even if late, is refreshing so I'll aplaud him for it now. I can never forgive him those indescretions though.

Gt_R · 20 Jun 2001, 13:00 (Ref:107363)

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Anti Schueys must be very buzy preparing their next round of slagging!
Don't some of you ever get tired repeating the same things over and over again???

I think its very much no point in us arguing over this issue. Michael Schumacher IS the best of this generation of drivers. No questions. And either you love him, or you hate him. Nobody is going to convince the other...we had this debate many times...just hope that if this really goes on, some of the posters do put some logic into their post, and not get overly "emotional" (biased) and slag Michael...cos MS fans wouldnt really like it, and you wont like others slag ur fav either...

By the way

I came here in peace...let peace prevail!

massifheed · 20 Jun 2001, 13:18 (Ref:107372)

As a complete fence-sitter, I would like to know, was he asked about the Schumi-Hill incident in 94? If he was, what was his response?

downforce · 20 Jun 2001, 14:07 (Ref:107397)

his response was...."downhill"!!

Gt_R · 20 Jun 2001, 14:33 (Ref:107412)

Interviewer: "Michael, tell us what do you think about your incident with Damon in 94, and what you think about the way the British press handled it?"

Michael: "Hill...*scratches his head*...oh him! I think its just 2 drivers doing their job which turned out a little nasty. Nothing much to be troubled over...just that the press is making a mountain out of a moleHILL..."

Interviewer: "Is it intentional?"

Michael: "*giggles* hehhee...i thought he would be smarter and sit back for a couple of corners and not fall for it..but i tried my luck there all the same...and goSH! did you see how he fell for it! Beautiful!"

RussianFriend · 20 Jun 2001, 15:27 (Ref:107430)

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Originally posted by angst
Typical modern reaction. They were doing it so why shouldn't I . It's their fault so why should I feel guilty.

The thing lowyers call "precedent"

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Originally posted by Gt_R
I think its very much no point in us arguing over this issue. Michael Schumacher IS the best of this generation of drivers. No questions.

If he's the best, why on earth he needs the precendent?

Ferrari Girl · 20 Jun 2001, 16:46 (Ref:107461)

Sigh, yet another original thread...

**Bononi** · 20 Jun 2001, 17:27 (Ref:107471)

I think TGF is getting old and romantic...

Damon · 20 Jun 2001, 17:55 (Ref:107490)

Oh I like these threads, a welcome return for some slanging matchs

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I'm kidding of course. I saw the Clarkson program that he said this on and they seemed to say lack of guilt was a characteristic of a great racer... huh!!

Like has been said, what would Fangio have thought of this. I'm biased as a Hill fan but I feel my views are justified, this guy's a jerk who wants to win no matter what the costs. This does not make him a great driver.

Gt_R · 21 Jun 2001, 02:51 (Ref:107670)

Lack of negative emotions are really neccessary for drivers to push themselves to the extreme. Fear, guilt, sadness are really what would prevent a driver from doing his job to perfection.

Its easy for us to say "HE IS WRONG...HE SHOULD BLAH BLAH!". But what some of you are thinking are really a very simplistic view of things. And You think that these drivers really have no shame, guilt, etc? Its just that when they are performing their job, they really have to put all these factors out of their minds and be that very uncompromising person in the car.

Inside the car and out, Michael can be quite different. If you fail to see this point, take for example David Coulthard. He is a gentleman (at least that is what some assume)...but when he is in the car, its not really rare to see him show hand signs etc.

About the JV and Hill incidents...its something that last happened half a decade ago...surely we should move on and enjoy this season, which so far had been far more exciting than the pass 4.

Gt_R · 21 Jun 2001, 02:55 (Ref:107672)

RussianFriend ==> If he is not the best driver for the past 4 seasons...tell me somebody who is better...and try justifying it!

Being the best and doing what he did is different matters. He is the best driver, but as you can see, the best doesnt always win from 96 to 1999. In 97, MS's Ferrari while leading encountered problems, which allowed JV to close up fast and overtake...which means that if he wants to keep his win, he had to do something about it.

Valve Bounce · 21 Jun 2001, 05:04 (Ref:107709)

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Originally posted by Gt_R
Lack of negative emotions are really neccessary for drivers to push themselves to the extreme. Fear, guilt, sadness are really what would prevent a driver from doing his job to perfection.

Well acording to this theory, Hitler, Himmler, Goering and Goebbels would have made the perfect team of GP drivers.

Maybe you could explain how Tazio Nuvolari and Bernd Rosemeyer fit into this mould.

Gt_R · 21 Jun 2001, 05:39 (Ref:107714)

How about this

square root of (-2) equals 4, but root of 4 does not naturally give you (-2)?

It is neccessary, or a little more beneficial, if drivers lack certain negative emotions, ie fear, especially in the racing car, but lack of emotions doesnt make a racing driver.

Simply a good teacher is preferred to be a patient person, but a patient person doesnt equal to a good teacher.

Gt_R · 21 Jun 2001, 05:41 (Ref:107715)

Quote from me : square root of (-2) equals 4, but root of 4 does not naturally give you (-2)?

Sorry...it should be square of -2 equal 4 but square root of 4 doesnt naturally give -2.

That's what happen when i dint do maths for a long time!

**Peter Mallett** · 21 Jun 2001, 05:44 (Ref:107716)

Er.

I think I understand the syntax of your underlying metaphor. On the other hand maybe not.

Valve Bounce · 21 Jun 2001, 06:09 (Ref:107721)

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Originally posted by Gt_R
How about this

square root of (-2) equals 4, but root of 4 does not naturally give you (-2)?

I understand perfectly, Mr Fawlty - I bring two bags to room 4, Si?

Wrex · 21 Jun 2001, 08:40 (Ref:107762)

Gt_R, Your wasting your time. Let the babies have their thread, you know they need it to justify why THEIR driver is'nt WDC.

drexel · 21 Jun 2001, 09:02 (Ref:107767)

MS is not placing the blame on Senna and others. He said what he did just to give the situation some perspective. As for what Fangio would have thought about him. Who could really care less what Fangio 'would' of thought, his days are long gone. MS is there to win the race coz the team that EMPLOYS him wants to win. He goes out there and puts everything out on the track week after week, and incidents like Villeneuve an Hill are going to happen because after the race, he's not gonna go back to the team boss thinking 'what if' , rather What Next.

Peter are you suggesting MS is instigating life or death situations on the track. You cant be serious. Why not take a good look at other drivers who have caused Death and serious injury through their stupidity on the track. MS's shunts on JV and Hill were controlled, low speed, and were done to damage the car. In JV's case, I bet he feels guilty that he wasn't hard enough on the situation. I guess hypocrisy is to be expected by Anti-schu ppl.

Note: MH recently came out and said he wouldnt't pull over for DC. Thats got to be the most selfish thing i've seen yet, yet i barely noticed any criticism. You can bet that if MS had said that before coming back from his leg injury he would of been burnt at the stake by some of yous ppl.

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