Engine penalties...

**Adam43** · 2 Apr 2004, 12:23 (Ref:927425)

Well it looks like Kimi might have one. http://www.formula1.com/race/news/1381/716.html

Still he could do with a fresher engine to last the race

It has also limited his running too.

Red · 2 Apr 2004, 12:28 (Ref:927440)

Well, that story say If engineers are forced to change the Mercedes V10..

**Adam43** · 2 Apr 2004, 12:31 (Ref:927449)

yes, at present it is just speculation that the engine will need changing...

shiny side up! · 2 Apr 2004, 12:33 (Ref:927454)

With the way things are shaping up with the tires, it may not matter where they start on the grid if they have to pit 6 times...

f1truestory · 2 Apr 2004, 13:27 (Ref:927501)

same for jarno too with a suspected engine failure.

PaulSands · 2 Apr 2004, 14:26 (Ref:927555)

If either were realistically looking at a midfield position based upon times (which from the eveidence of the first two sessions they could be) it could be worth while to fuel up to the hilt, not complete a flyer and just start from the back anyway

**BertMk2** · 2 Apr 2004, 14:55 (Ref:927574)

Quote:

Originally posted by PaulSands
..it could be worth while to fuel up to the hilt, not complete a flyer and just start from the back anyway

With the tyre wear problems they've been having I don't think long runs are an option - they may need tyres before fuel.

Gt_R · 2 Apr 2004, 15:01 (Ref:927581)

3 tyre blowouts...

Remember Sauber with their rear wing collapse during practice at Brazil a few seasons back? They withdrew from the race due to safety reasons?

Does Michelins have more durable compounds for Michelin-shod teams to choose from? If all the tyre supplies face a high risk of failure, would they be forced to not race??

It's impossible i know..but just curious of "IFs"

Gt_R · 2 Apr 2004, 15:06 (Ref:927584)

Anyways, this topic is about engine penalties...

DC had an off which isn't going to help his already frail engine.. and DC isn't a brilliant qualifier now....would Mclaren change his engine in a bid to push more reliability and hope to score more points for the WCC?

Gt_R · 2 Apr 2004, 15:27 (Ref:927601)

Oh..anyways i read ItV-f1.com and they reported that Kimi will indeed drop back 10places for Sunday's race...Mclaren changed the engine.

James Kimbley · 2 Apr 2004, 19:09 (Ref:927771)

Yes he has got the penalty http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/3594681.stm

Also the is this article on the BBC about tyre ware, looks it not a tyre problem but a track problem : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/3594783.stm

006_007 · 2 Apr 2004, 19:40 (Ref:927802)

It is really starting to look like Kimis 2004 season is going to be a character builder for him. After having such a phenominal season last year, he must be getting frustrated by all the setbacks which are all no fault of his own.

paulzinho · 2 Apr 2004, 20:30 (Ref:927835)

Say Kimi had another engine go before the race would he then fall another ten places? IE The back of the grid?

ASCII Man · 2 Apr 2004, 20:44 (Ref:927845)

Quote:

Originally posted by Gt_R
Remember Sauber with their rear wing collapse during practice at Brazil a few seasons back? They withdrew from the race due to safety reasons?

Wasn't that Minardi?
Or was that at Imola,... can't quite remember...

paulzinho · 2 Apr 2004, 20:47 (Ref:927848)

Minardi was at Barcelona, same problem that Sauber had though.

F1Pete · 2 Apr 2004, 23:33 (Ref:927930)

Quote:

Originally posted by paulzinho
Say Kimi had another engine go before the race would he then fall another ten places? IE The back of the grid?

I came in here to post the same question...does anyone know the rules?

What the heck is McLaren up to anyway...

f1truestory · 3 Apr 2004, 00:24 (Ref:927951)

i think no matter how many times u change ur engine. Only if u change it, u drop 10 places.

jetsetter · 3 Apr 2004, 00:43 (Ref:927958)

It looks more & more likely that McLaren are in for a long season.

Gt_R · 3 Apr 2004, 01:07 (Ref:927964)

I thought you drop 10 place for every engine change..but i may be wrong...(i usually am!

)

Unfortunate for Mclaren and Mercedes....Malaysia was a step forward, and Bahrain is a step back.

With teams now forced by new regulations to make an engine last longer...it's ironic that one big manufacturer is having problems making their engine last as long as the engine they had last year.

f1truestory · 3 Apr 2004, 01:12 (Ref:927967)

i predict that either one of the Mac will blow up again on Saturday, maybe this time its DC.

F1Pete · 3 Apr 2004, 02:36 (Ref:927990)

I predict Raikkonen will blow by into the lead with a squirrely engine only to blow up on the last lap. Didn't Hakkinen's car fail shortly before the finish line on a sure win?

garcon · 3 Apr 2004, 03:00 (Ref:927996)

I predict over half the engines will cook themselves on the formation lap, and they'll all decide to contest the race on pit bikes instead...

f1truestory · 3 Apr 2004, 03:49 (Ref:928010)

Quote:

Originally posted by garcon
I predict over half the engines will cook themselves on the formation lap, and they'll all decide to contest the race on pit bikes instead...

no no, i predict 90% of them will blow, and decide bahrain is not a good place, so they scrap it

tanalised · 3 Apr 2004, 04:30 (Ref:928025)

Hakkinens clutch failed at Barcelona on the last lap, whilst leading yes.
Maybe McLaren will go back to "Judd" power

Kicking-back · 3 Apr 2004, 07:42 (Ref:928138)

Quote:

Originally posted by tanalised
Hakkinens clutch failed at Barcelona on the last lap, whilst leading yes.
Maybe McLaren will go back to "Judd" power

McLaren have never used Judd engines.

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